tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post4815070051920729740..comments2023-09-28T03:16:50.267-07:00Comments on MormonMysticism.com: The Purpose of MysticismDavid Littlefieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-56568245395709534662008-10-02T08:43:00.000-07:002008-10-02T08:43:00.000-07:00We largely chose to understand or not understand, ...We largely chose to understand or not understand, again playing out our underlying pathology.<BR/><BR/>-DavidDavid Littlefieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-54288716759373241842007-10-22T01:04:00.000-07:002007-10-22T01:04:00.000-07:00How does one repent?What of addition ? weakness?me...How does one repent?<BR/>What of addition ? weakness?<BR/>mental capacity or incapacity?<BR/>Back sliding? Once saved always saved?<BR/>Pre-ordained to Good and Bad?<BR/>Fore-ordained to Good and Bad?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-84691786178303984932007-08-14T14:57:00.000-07:002007-08-14T14:57:00.000-07:00Sealing = At-One-MentSealing = At-One-MentDavid Littlefieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-48546577184160814722007-08-14T14:39:00.000-07:002007-08-14T14:39:00.000-07:00Mystic Monkey said:“What if a persons relationship...Mystic Monkey said:<BR/><BR/>“What if a persons relationship with their family is in no need of healing? What if things are already ok? Then, is a sealing still necessary?”<BR/><BR/>David says:<BR/><BR/>In the pre-existence we lived as children of God, part of a family. When Adam came to earth he sinned and broke the allegiance, and the family chain. When we sin we break the family chain (2 Nephi 2:16). <BR/><BR/>This family chain consists not only of immediate family and forefathers, but more importantly the linking of our family back to the family of God.<BR/><BR/>When we sin by our actions, or even by our attitudes (rebellion, hatred, resentment etc.) we demonstrate that we have a relationship problem with God. Our actions/attitudes are bad because we have a values problem (we don’t see or value our position in the plan of salvation or our relationship to God). Our values are messed-up because we have some wrong/perverted beliefs about our relationship to God, our families, or even mankind. <BR/><BR/>So if we sin, we need healing. In-fact our sin creates a relationship problem with God. We in-fact can see it from both directions; sin causes a relationship problem with God, Or, a relationship problem with God causes sin. Take your pick, it’s the same thing.<BR/><BR/>In short, by Adam and our own sins we are separated from God, we must be sealed, or at-oned.<BR/><BR/>-DavidDavid Littlefieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-47918800552662454822007-08-14T11:24:00.000-07:002007-08-14T11:24:00.000-07:00Mystic Monkey: Great points. Yes there are many pe...Mystic Monkey: <BR/><BR/>Great points. <BR/><BR/>Yes there are many people who did not have a chance to pick their mates. One of the fundamental principles of the gospel is agency, or choice. There are God given rights, and choosing a spouse is among those rights, but we see that families, cultures, societies, and nations wrongly deprive people of this and many other choices. These deprivations (and the consequences that stem from them) are among the many wounds of mortality. <BR/><BR/>In the final scheme of things, as part of the healing, we will all have our agency restored. We can accept or reject any sealing (the Holy Spirit of Promise is only given for sealings that we embrace, D&C 132: 7, 18-19, 26) Eph. 1: 13 D&C 76: 53 D&C 88: 3) <BR/><BR/>And, many people make bad choices. They will have all of the wounds of mortality healed, made right, or corrected. <BR/><BR/>In Malachi [Joseph Smith History 1:38-39] it refers to the “promises made to the fathers.” This is describing the covenants made in pre-existence that created the “Plan of Salvation,” or the “Plan of Happiness” in which we could come and learn certain lessons, and see what law we are truly willing to live [D&C 88:20-24].<BR/><BR/>In that covenant Christ was anointed (Messiah) to pay for all sins, and heal all the wounds of mortality if we would accept Him. All others become son’s of perdition [D&C 88:32]. <BR/><BR/>Mystic Monkey asks: “What if a persons relationship with their family is in no need of healing?” <BR/><BR/>David responds by quoting Matt 9:12: “…They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.”<BR/><BR/>And I would suggest that we all need the Great Physician, we all need to be healed. We all have (or at least had if we have already been healed to a celestial level) a fallen and sinful nature that needs to be healed. We live in and add to a fallen world. As we sanctify ourselves, the poison in our souls become more and more revealed. <BR/><BR/>-DavidDavid Littlefieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-24855313308989068832007-08-13T23:45:00.000-07:002007-08-13T23:45:00.000-07:00Very interesting post. I'm intrigued by the idea t...Very interesting post. I'm intrigued by the idea that values come from relationships. It seems to make sense, but I need to think on it a bit.<BR/><BR/>One of the problems I find with the idea of putting so much emphasis on eternal families is the fact that most people, unlike myself, did not get to choose their significant other. We're pretty lucky that we get to pick the person who we will be with forever. But, what about all the people who were put together in arranged marriages often without even meeting their partner? It makes the idea of eternal families much less appealing when you didn't get a choice in the matter.<BR/><BR/>More on topic - you say that sealings are for "healing, re-uniting, and bring back of relationships." What if a persons relationship with their family is in no need of healing? What if things are already ok? Then, is a sealing still necessary?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com