tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post5828315384435667324..comments2023-09-28T03:16:50.267-07:00Comments on MormonMysticism.com: Abraham’s Knot of FaithDavid Littlefieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-75350711808308425362008-07-09T16:48:00.000-07:002008-07-09T16:48:00.000-07:00Over at Temple Study, Bryce just posted on related...Over at <A HREF="http://www.templestudy.com" REL="nofollow">Temple Study</A>, Bryce just posted on related topic; "<A HREF="http://www.templestudy.com/2008/07/09/asking-for-her-hand-in-marriage-tying-the-knot-and-handfasting/#more-420" REL="nofollow">Hand Fasting</A>." He describes a practice of "handfasting" where a couple would have their hands tied together as a sign of their covenant.<BR/><BR/>-DavidDavid Littlefieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-52757438973580731962008-07-05T10:54:00.000-07:002008-07-05T10:54:00.000-07:00Jay:While many disagree on my position here, the w...Jay:<BR/><BR/>While many disagree on my position here, the way I see it is that it is not a matter that “the power of the atonement are manifest there” in different degrees. Or in other words, the people of the different degrees of glory are not cleansed thru the atonement to different levels, hence remaining levels of un-resolvable sin. I believe that except for the son’s of perdition, we are all cleansed from all our sins when we accept Christ, which we must do to receive a degree of glory.<BR/><BR/>What determines what glory we go to is the law we cling to.<BR/><BR/>So the atonement is complete, and full in each kingdom, all the wounds of mortality will be healed. But it is us who will decide what level of law we will live.<BR/><BR/>-DavidDavid Littlefieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-53207887324602369672008-07-04T08:57:00.000-07:002008-07-04T08:57:00.000-07:00Is the portion of glory given to each Kingdom anal...Is the portion of glory given to each Kingdom analogous to the portion of "<I>the power of the Atonement manifest there</I>"?<BR/>Does the fact that there are three "vav"s have any reference to the three locations of wounds in Christ's body [hands, wrists, and feet]?<BR/>Also, now that we know all this stuff...what do we do now? Where can we practically apply all these ropes, ladders, rounds, wheels, seraphs, knots, etc.?JayFlow22https://www.blogger.com/profile/02462190175533227833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-31125519283254834742008-07-03T20:44:00.000-07:002008-07-03T20:44:00.000-07:00In Zohar fashion:What is up? The laws of the celes...In Zohar fashion:<BR/><BR/>What is up? The laws of the celestial kingdom.<BR/><BR/>-DavidDavid Littlefieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-71357921444128202912008-07-03T20:41:00.000-07:002008-07-03T20:41:00.000-07:00Hey Jay!The nail connects the three kindoms of glo...Hey Jay!<BR/><BR/>The nail connects the three kindoms of glory, Celestial, Terrestrial, and Telestial.<BR/><BR/>The three divisions of the temple represent to us the three kingdoms of glory. When in the Telestial room, we make the covenants required to receive a telestial (initial initiation) glory. These are symbolically done as though you are at the altar. The altar represents the place of atonement in that kingdom of glory, that’s why the covenants are made at the altar. The altar in Solomon’s temple was used for burning animal as a sacrifice.<BR/><BR/>In our temples, there is an altar that is made to represent the place of atonement in the Terrestrial kingdom, as it is in the Ter. room. <BR/><BR/>The same is true for the Celestial room and kingdom. The Mercy seat (altar) is the symbolic reconciling of mercy and justice in the atonement. It is where we make our covenants, as we do in each room or kingdom.<BR/><BR/>The Hebrew “vav” is the nail. It represents power to combine, or seal together. It is a symbol of the atonement. In the minds of some ancient Hebrews a vav was nailed to each altar, in each kingdom (or temple room), that connected all lower kingdoms to God, like a rope descending down thru the kingdoms.<BR/><BR/>Each kingdom exists by the power of the atonement manifest there, nailed to the altar of each kingdom. IMHO.<BR/><BR/>-DavidDavid Littlefieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-16033651631428612192008-07-03T19:36:00.000-07:002008-07-03T19:36:00.000-07:00So are the 3 knotsThe Spirit World, Mortal Earth, ...So are the 3 knots<BR/>The Spirit World, Mortal Earth, and Heaven<BR/>or<BR/>Celestial, Terrestrial, and Telestial<BR/>or both?<BR/>The alter in our knot is obviously in the Temples.<BR/>Where are the "vav"s in the other worlds/knots?JayFlow22https://www.blogger.com/profile/02462190175533227833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-2046232513999630782008-07-03T19:30:00.000-07:002008-07-03T19:30:00.000-07:00Jacob climbed a ladder, Abraham climbed a rope.-Da...Jacob climbed a ladder, Abraham climbed a rope.<BR/><BR/>-DavidDavid Littlefieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.com