tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post8921897752820923272..comments2023-09-28T03:16:50.267-07:00Comments on MormonMysticism.com: ReincarnationDavid Littlefieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-39134670745835523772023-08-27T20:06:03.740-07:002023-08-27T20:06:03.740-07:00Book of Mormon clearly says that after life on ear...Book of Mormon clearly says that after life on earth when we die, we are resurrected never to have spirit and body separated again. We know this is the fallen world and the planet where Christ was born, atoned, and died not just for us, but for all people of all planets in God’s universe. This world fell possibly further than any other world fell, creating the possibility for natures (people’s character) to become a kind of fallen person like that who would kill their God. <br /><br />So if we are the only planet to produce a Savior in this Universe (or whatever verse one would like to call it), and the most fallen planet produced the people who killed their God and produced the God (Son of God) to begin with, then this might be the only planet that experiences death—which is the way that leads to resurrection. <br /><br />What if less fallen planets, (perhaps those terrestrial) don’t have death because they aren’t as far fallen, because they did not eat of the tree of good and knowledge without permission (double negative—which means they ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil only with permission at the time granted. If you are on a planet with no death, when your spirit leaves your body, then you do not die and you maybe are not resurrected until Father says it is time to go to the fallen planet. You could have (but not stating this is absolute) many probations that way. Joseph Smith did say we will have many fathers, mothers…but we cannot presume to know that he meant it in this way. We are not “baked” or resurrected until we come to a fallen planet, where we die…just like a seed has to be buried before it will grow. Once on earth and die, we never die again. <br /><br />That is a synopsis (a presumption) of many doctrines and scriptures put together over the years. But that is all it is. Doesn’t mean the way I have woven it together is right and I would never say so. <br /><br />One other thing. There are those who are faithful born to earth who were righteous as they grew from intelligence to intelligence throughout the eternities of time. (Ok , I need to check on the wording of that last sentence).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-86058803174190956302023-02-01T23:55:59.370-08:002023-02-01T23:55:59.370-08:00Teachings of The Doctrine of Eternal Lives
http:/...Teachings of The Doctrine of Eternal Lives<br /><br />http://ldssoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/The-Doctrine-of-Eternal-Lives.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-61095287658858687542022-01-16T19:17:04.831-08:002022-01-16T19:17:04.831-08:00Sorry to be coming to the party so late. Interesti...Sorry to be coming to the party so late. Interesting discussion though.<br /><br />To the OP, you should already know that the story about Robert Matthews in no way supports your POV. There are a number of aspects of Mr. Matthews' claims that the prophet could have been condemning as false.<br /><br />I agree that "reincarnation" is a false doctrine, but mainly because it's a corruption of the truth. Reincarnation roughly claims that the state into which a spirit is born is a reward or punishment for the deeds done in the previous life. The correct doctrine of multiple probations is that each successive life experience is given to build on what the spirit needs to move it toward perfection.<br /><br />It's not remotely possible for a spirit to learn everything in a single mortal life that's needed to become perfect. If mortality is the best state in which to progress, why only do it once? Part of the process of exaltation is, as Brigham Young said, to learn how do subdue the matter of the body to God's will. We can't do that completely in a single probation. If we were never again clothed with mortal flesh, there would be no further opportunities for progress, and we would truly be damned.<br /><br />Christ is essential to this doctrine because there would be no mercy for all the rest of us who haven't yet progressed enough to live in perfect obedience. We must be brought back into God's presence to integrate what we learned from the experiences of our last probation, and to confer with Him about what needs to happen in our next probation. Without Christ, we would be cast out eternally, which would defeat God's purposes for us.<br /><br />This doctrine is probably hard to grasp for many devoted LDS because we've been given certain assumptions, for example about what is meant in the scriptured by the word "resurrection" or "man"/"men". People confuse "man", a reference to our present state (soul) with "spirit" or "intelligence", our eternal identity. Or they think of "resurrection" as happening all at once, when in reality, we only retain, after the judgment, that portion of the matter of our bodies that we've subdued to God's will; this adding of refined matter, line upon line, layer upon layer, to the intelligence is what distinguishes a naked intelligence from a spirit.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08203855821160972189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-41658733422368510922022-01-16T19:05:42.507-08:002022-01-16T19:05:42.507-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08203855821160972189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-17923122600899334252022-01-16T18:31:54.908-08:002022-01-16T18:31:54.908-08:00Matt, I recommend D&C 19, specifically this pa...Matt, I recommend D&C 19, specifically this part:<br />"4 And surely every man must repent or suffer, for I, God, am endless.<br />5 Wherefore, I revoke not the judgments which I shall pass, but woes shall go forth, weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth, yea, to those who are found on my left hand.<br />6 Nevertheless, it is not written that there shall be no end to this torment, but it is written endless torment.<br />7 Again, it is written eternal damnation; wherefore it is more express than other scriptures, *that it might work upon the hearts of the children of men, altogether for my name’s glory*.<br />8 Wherefore, I will explain unto you this mystery, for it is meet unto you to know even as mine apostles.<br />9 I speak unto you that are chosen in this thing, even as one, that you may enter into my rest.<br />10 For, behold, the mystery of godliness, how great is it! For, behold, I am endless, and the punishment which is given from my hand is endless punishment, for Endless is my name. Wherefore—<br />11 Eternal punishment is God’s punishment.<br />12 Endless punishment is God’s punishment."<br />*Emphasis added<br /><br />Just as we do with children, God tells us what we need to know, within the constraints of our capacities. Most people need to be motivated by fear of an eternity of torment before they will behave themselves (if they will at all), so God uses language in a way that gives that impression.<br /><br />Yes, this life is the only time we have to prepare for our next meeting with God.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08203855821160972189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-61245337144504974542018-12-05T12:58:35.987-08:002018-12-05T12:58:35.987-08:00Am I the only person who has read the Book of Morm...Am I the only person who has read the Book of Mormon?<br /><br />Alma states in no uncertain terms that this life--this life alone--is our time to prepare to meet God. Now is our time to prepare for eternity. When we die, we go to paradise/rest, or darkness, depending on how we lived according the law we had given or didn't have given. And there we wait for the resurrection. Then, if we prove worthy, we sit down in God's kingdom, to go out no more.<br /><br />THAT'S IT.<br /><br />There is no reincarnation. No Multiple Mortal probations. What's the point of a Savior if we just keep coming back?<br /><br />Good grief. No wonder the church remains under condemnation. We still don't believe in the BOM.<br />matt lohrkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159067604487338024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-49629397209697152192018-06-10T03:33:46.452-07:002018-06-10T03:33:46.452-07:00In Eglish: "But since there is a necessity th...In Eglish: "But since there is a necessity that the defilements which sin has engendered in the soul as well should be removed thence by some remedial process, the medicine which virtue supplies has, in the life that now is, been applied to the healing of such mutilations as these. If, however, the soul remains unhealed (3), the remedy is dispensed in the life that follows this" Gregory of Nyssa wrote it, in "The great cathequesis" VIIIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-8918090046831551322018-06-10T03:31:16.818-07:002018-06-10T03:31:16.818-07:00Yes, Gregory of Nyssa wrote it, in "The great...Yes, Gregory of Nyssa wrote it, in "The great cathequesis" VIII, but not Gregory Illuminator or Gregory Nizanzen.<br /><br />It is necessery to put quote with all information, so it won't have confussion.<br /><br /> "Επειδή χρεία του κακείνης τάς εμφυείσας εξ αμαρτιών κηλίδας διά τινος ιατρείας εξαιρεθήναι, τούτου ένεκεν, εν μεν τη παρούση ζωή, το τής άρετης φάρμακον εις θεραπείαν των τοιούτων προσετέθη τραυμάτων. Ει δε αθεράπευτος μένει, εν τώ μετά ταύτα βίω ταμιεύεται η θεραπεία"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-7173231962019665392018-06-05T13:33:43.826-07:002018-06-05T13:33:43.826-07:00Who cares really.. there are all kinds of things w...Who cares really.. there are all kinds of things we don't know of. I know there are people who come into your life and they remind you of someone else. Or you've seen something before or been somewhere before and just for a few seconds you've been there and remember it. All kinds of weird things happen in life all we need to worry about is doing what Christ taught us to do inorder to be saved. Yes, it's interesting as all get out, but so are alot of other things. Just like when the dead come and visit you after they die.. that's pretty interesting not sure on the church's view on that, but I Beloit and that's all that counts because believing that isn't going to put me in hell. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13627736719379880114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-20170531520805937672017-11-07T23:02:05.248-08:002017-11-07T23:02:05.248-08:00With all due respect the book of Helaman chp.3:29 ...With all due respect the book of Helaman chp.3:29 seems to suggest that this life is the everlasting gulf of misery prepared for the wicked.Strangely the book of Mormon says the phrase:to go no more out five times, and the bible only once.Mormon doctrine says that this present world is a telestial kingdom, and if you look at an older 1970's progression chart, you could infer that the judgement to one of the three kingdoms could land the wicked right back to another earth which Helaman 3:29 seems to indicate is the case.Joseph Smith said that we are going from one small degree to another; from exaltation to exaltation, until we attain to the resurrection of the dead; which could by the way refer to the spiritually dead state of being mortal.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05205922458722706031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-87324681388771944872016-12-20T12:51:09.452-08:002016-12-20T12:51:09.452-08:00Joseph Smith and Reincarnation:
http://saltlakecit...Joseph Smith and Reincarnation:<br />http://saltlakecity1912.webs.com/000REINCARNATION.htm<br /><br />The Mormon Curse of Cain Doctrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17455276986065704481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-37173184837042587732016-06-17T13:05:10.891-07:002016-06-17T13:05:10.891-07:00Thanks to everyone for this info. For the last 7 y...Thanks to everyone for this info. For the last 7 years I have been struggling with this topic because my spiritual experiences have pointed to this concept. I have prayed earnestly about it and received my answer that it is true. It has been a looong and hard road for me. The reason I stuggle with my testimony is because I no longer understand what we do in the temple! I really enjoy the temple and all if offers but what if I am doing work for someone who used to be me?! What if I was married to dozens of men before. How do I know this companion I have in this life is the one I want to be sealed to? And dont even mention the children! I could have had dozens and dozens of kids who I want to be with. See where I am coming from? Someone please shed some light as I am on the fringe of throwing in the mormon towel. :'(<br />Thanks in advanceJennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-42164288316937674812016-06-17T12:54:20.495-07:002016-06-17T12:54:20.495-07:00D&C 93:38/Ether 3:14 The bookends of this Eter...D&C 93:38/Ether 3:14 The bookends of this Eternal Round or Generation of Time<br /><br />38 Every spirit of man was innocent in the beginning; and God having redeemed man from the fall, men became again, in their infant state, innocent before God.<br />D&C 93<br /><br />14 Behold, I am he who was prepared from the foundation of the world to redeem my people. Behold, I am Jesus Christ. I am the Father and the Son. In me shall all mankind have life, and that eternally, even they who shall believe on my name; and they shall become my sons and my daughters.<br />Ether 3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-37470287720574271202016-06-17T12:50:14.644-07:002016-06-17T12:50:14.644-07:00Reincarnation is a doctrine of the Devil. It is a ...Reincarnation is a doctrine of the Devil. It is a mochary and forgery of a true doctrine just as a crystal ball is a mochary and forgery of the urim & thumim.<br />The true doctrine has been known as plural probations, multiple probations, multiple mortal probation, and the doctrine of eternal ives and was taught by joseph smith, brigham young, john taylor, wilford woodruff, and many others. An important part of that doctrine is that the father of our spirits, the physical p<br />Father of Jesus is indeed Adam, Micheal the Archangel. And when Joseph F. Smith put an end to teaching that, so went the teaching of the doctrine of eternal lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-29393684694770604292015-05-26T23:29:06.067-07:002015-05-26T23:29:06.067-07:00There are some interesting scripture verses that m...There are some interesting scripture verses that makes one think there could be more than one probation. These verses are : Helaman 3:30, 3 Nephi 28:40, Alma 34:36, 7:25, 29:17, Revelations 3:12. TO GO NO MORE OUT!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-2613353380441075902013-05-09T19:54:40.537-07:002013-05-09T19:54:40.537-07:00Every True Prophet that has ever lived on this ear...Every True Prophet that has ever lived on this earth Taught, Believed and Knew that Reincarnation was, is and always will be a True and Real Law of Creation.<br /><br />Joseph Smith himself said that he could not tell even a fraction about what he knew concerning the Universe and the Kingdom of God. He said they would surely kill me. Certain things he out right denied and condemned because the people, the saints around him, were having a hard time with the basics. Most extremely sacred things he never told anyone.<br /><br />View my webpage...<br />trimetatron.wix.com/i-am-love-refugeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-23543412047576201242013-03-16T09:23:17.191-07:002013-03-16T09:23:17.191-07:00"Was Jesus Christ really the creator of ALL?&..."Was Jesus Christ really the creator of ALL?"<br /><br />Answer: YES<br /><br />Signed: an active Latter-Day Saint (aka. Mormon)Steven Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-3398549787445691962011-03-03T16:38:18.335-08:002011-03-03T16:38:18.335-08:00D&C 76 "I received the following explanat...D&C 76 "I received the following explanation of the Revelation of St. John” <br />24That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God.<br /><br />KJV John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.<br /> 2The same was in the beginning with God.<br /> 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.<br /><br />Colossians Chapter 1 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:<br /> 17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.<br /> JST John 1:1–3<br /> 1In the beginning was the gospel preached through the Son. And the gospel was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God.2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made which was made.<br />ALL -"and without him was not anything made which was made."<br /><br />Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein,...........<br /><br />D&C 38 1Thus saith the Lord your God, even Jesus Christ, the Great aI Am, Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the same which looked upon the wide expanse of eternity, and all the seraphic hosts of heaven, before the world was made;<br /> 2The same which aknoweth all things, for all things are present before mine eyes;<br /> 3I am the same which spake, and the world was made, and all things came by me.<br /><br />How Many gods and how many creations?<br />Mormon "truth" is being Hidden?<br /><br />Was Jesus Christ really the creator of ALL?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-85035197183242086222011-03-03T15:51:54.574-08:002011-03-03T15:51:54.574-08:00Joseph Smith
"He would be a wonderfully big ...Joseph Smith <br />"He would be a wonderfully big God-he would be a giant or a monster."<br />1John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.<br /> 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.<br />"I learned it by translating the papyrus which is now in my house.<br />I want to stick to my text, to show that when men open their lips against these truths they do not injure me, but injure themselves."<br />1John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.<br /> 10He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.<br /> 11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.<br />Joseph Smith<br />"He would be a wonderfully big God-he would be a giant or a monster.I learned it by translating the papyrus which is now in my house."?????<br /><br />1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.<br /> <br />JESUS CHRIST IS THEE CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH AND ALL THAT IN THEM IS <br /> or do you believe that he was just a little "god" in your Lords Many and gods many belief System?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-62582813475528686722011-03-03T15:25:09.317-08:002011-03-03T15:25:09.317-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-89463605365153324232011-03-03T14:40:46.256-08:002011-03-03T14:40:46.256-08:00Okay I Admit an apostate to the Lies- But you Sti...Okay I Admit an apostate to the Lies- But you Still do not answer the Question about who is The Creator- Mormons Do NOT believe Jesus Christ is really the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth and that in them Is- Mormons Reject this scripture on its Face-<br /><br />John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.<br /> 2The same was in the beginning with God.<br /> 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.<br /> 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men.<br /><br />Heb. 1:22Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;<br /><br />GOSPEL PRINCIPLES CHAPTER 47: EXALTATION<br />Chapter 47: Exaltation<br />"Chapter 47: Exaltation," Gospel Principles, (2009)<br /><br />According to Mormon-ism <br />GOD and Jesus Christ are just other Creator(s) not THEE CREATOR <br />Exaltation<br />• What is exaltation?<br />Exaltation is eternal life, the kind of life God lives. He lives in great glory. He is perfect. He possesses all knowledge and all wisdom. He is the Father of spirit children. He is a creator. We can become like our Heavenly Father. This is exaltation.<br />Joseph Smith taught: “It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God. … He was once a man like us; … God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith [1976], 345–46).<br />Did Jesus Christ Create the "earth" that God his Father lived on ?<br />Mormon Gnosticism<br />The Prophet Joseph Smith taught: “When you climb up a ladder, you must begin at the bottom, and ascend step by step, until you arrive at the top; and so it is with the principles of the gospel—you must begin with the first, and go on until you learn all the principles of exaltation. But it will be a great while after you have passed through the veil [died] before you will have learned them. It is not all to be comprehended in this world; it will be a great work to learn our salvation and exaltation even beyond the grave” (Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith [2007], 268).<br /><br />Joseph Smith claimed he learned all of his "special" knowledge thru the "papyrus" ???????<br />I want to show a little learning as well as other fools.<br />I defy all the world to refute me.<br />He would be a wonderfully big God-he would be a giant or a monster.<br />I learned it by translating the papyrus which is now in my house.<br />Further Compare Rev 1:6 KJV vs JST <br />Rev 1:6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and (his) Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.<br />Jst Rev 1:6 And unto him who loved us, be glory; who washed us from our sins in his own blood, and hath made us kings and priests unto God, (his) Father. To him be glory and dominion, forever and ever. Amen. (Gods ABOVE The Father?)<br />Humble Joseph in love invites the following<br />"I want to show a little learning as well as other fools.<br />I defy all the world to refute me."<br />I am a fool? and I refute HIM- <br />2 Corinthians 12:6<br />For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be, or that he heareth of me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-33292508343800638032011-03-03T10:23:01.157-08:002011-03-03T10:23:01.157-08:00Annon:
Probably the most direct and clearest way ...Annon:<br /><br />Probably the most direct and clearest way to boil down my response is to suggest that you need to repent of your apostasy, and stop fighting against the church.<br /><br />-DavidDavid Littlefieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15369036998624269404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-70951588764148575032011-03-03T01:03:52.788-08:002011-03-03T01:03:52.788-08:00ev 1:6And hath made us kings and priests unto God ...ev 1:6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and (his) Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.<br />Jst Rev 1:6 And unto him who loved us, be glory; who washed us from our sins in his own blood, and hath made us kings and priests unto God, (his) Father. To him be glory and dominion, forever and ever. Amen. (Gods ABOVE The Father?)<br />(as printed in History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 473-479. See also Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith 369-376)<br />President Joseph Smith read the 3rd chapter of Revelation, and took for his text 1st chapter, 6th verse-”And hath made us kings and priests unto God and (His) Father: to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.”<br />It is altogether correct in the translation. Now, you know that of late some malicious and corrupt men have sprung up and apostatized from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and they declare that the Prophet believes in a plurality of Gods, and, lo and behold! we have discovered a very great secret, they cry-”The Prophet says there are many Gods, and this proves that he has fallen.”<br />Plurality of Gods<br />I will preach on the plurality of Gods. I have selected this text (REV 1:6) for that express purpose. I wish to declare I have always and in all congregations when I have preach on the subject of the Deity, it has been the plurality of Gods. It has been preached by the Elders for fifteen years.<br />Our text says, “And hath made us kings and priests unto God and (His) Father.” The Apostles have discovered that there were Gods (above), for John says God was the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. My object was to preach the scriptures, and preach the doctrine they contain, there being a (God) above, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. (REV 1:6) I am bold to declare I have taught all the strongest doctrines publicly, and always teach stronger doctrines in public than in private.<br />John was one of the men, and apostles declare they were made kings and priests unto God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. It reads just so in the Revelation, Hence the doctrine of a plurality of Gods is as prominent in the Bible as any other doctrine. It is all over the face of the Bible. It stands beyond the power of controversy. A wayfaring man, though a fool, need not err therein.<br />He makes himself a fool if he thinks or says so, and there is an end of his career or progress in knowledge. He cannot obtain all knowledge, for he has sealed up the gate to it.<br />I want to show a little learning as well as other fools.<br />I defy all the world to refute me.<br />He would be a wonderfully big God-he would be a giant or a monster.<br />I learned it by translating the papyrus which is now in my house.<br />I want to stick to my text, to show that when men open their lips against these truths they do not injure me, but injure themselves. <br />I testify again, as the Lord lives, God never will acknowledge any traitors or apostates.<br />Hear and judge for yourselves; and if you go away satisfied, well and good. Rev 1:6 Jst Rev 1:6<br />It is altogether correct in the translation??????????<br />The Apostles have discovered that there were Gods above??????????<br />www.newcoolthang.com/index.php/joseph-smiths-sermon-in-the-grove/<br />Witches Masons Mormons - all the sameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-85338640595346625372011-03-03T01:02:17.061-08:002011-03-03T01:02:17.061-08:00because Mormons belief in Witch Craft - Mormon do ...because Mormons belief in Witch Craft - Mormon do Not really Believe That Jesus Christ is the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth and ALL -Yes ALL that in them is - Jesus is a little "god" of a little Creations - Because like the Witches and Freemasons - The are Lords, gods, Heavens, and earths, many - for mormons "god" the father of Jesus Christ is a many that Earned his exaltation on a earth, Did Jesus Christ Create that earth and "god" that Jesus Christ's Father was ON?<br />Joseph Smith was Proud and loud to Boast and Refute That Idea of there being one "god" .<br /><br />Please see the Following post below and you will Understand why I say what I say - Also I wish mormons would quit pretending that they Believe in the Boom of Mormon or Jesus Christ or His Father- Mormons are Gnostic Freemasons who Partake of those Forbidden OATHS that Bind the Soul of Man to DarknessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738615154541482932.post-36544627300444309112011-03-03T00:23:45.448-08:002011-03-03T00:23:45.448-08:00which death? and which judgement? Final first Last...which death? and which judgement? Final first Last-<br /><br />John 8:51<br />Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.<br />Alma 11:45<br />Now, behold, I have spoken unto you concerning the death of the mortal body, and also concerning the resurrection of the mortal body. I say unto you that this mortal body is raised to an immortal body, that is from death, even from the first death unto life, that they can die no more; their spirits uniting with their bodies, never to be divided; thus the whole becoming spiritual and immortal, that they can no more see corruption. <br /><br />How Many creations Stories do you Believe In - One or Many and Do you really believe that Jesus Christ is the Creator of ALL of the Heavens and Earth and ALL that in Them Is ? (NO MORMONS DO NOT)<br /><br />Not that I believe In being RE-incarnated - But it is Strange that the Subject is NOT confronted Head on - What does that Gnostic Stuff Say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com