Wednesday, August 15, 2007

Masons, Friends of Foes?

If we accept that “Mysticism” is the study of ordinances you can’t avoid discussing “Masonry.” [Hugh Nibley, Temple and Cosmos: Beyond This Ignorant Present, Deseret Book, pg. 28.]

Hugh Nibley said: “Latter-day Saints believe that their temple ordinances are as old as the human race and represent a primordial revealed religion that has passed through alternate phases of apostasy and restoration which have left the world littered with the scattered fragments of the original structure, some more and some less recognizable, but all badly damaged and out of proper context.” (Hugh Nibley, Mormonism and Early Christianity, Deseret Book, pg 369).

I suspect Nibley had Masonry foremost in mind when he gave the above quote, but where does that put Masonry in a modern setting? More importantly, what should we think of Joseph Smith, and the early brethrens involvement with Masonry? These questions have sent some Mormons packing, some screaming, but most just settle into a cognitive dissonance.

I see Masonry as the fragmented remains of earlier dispensations. These remains were the intellectual frameworks that provided (or assisted) Joseph Smith with understanding of how to structure modern temple worship, with ordinances being provided against a theatrical backdrop. The same could be said of Joseph Smiths life that was set in a protestant society where he learned the bible. In an English speaking America the intellectual frameworks existed to read the bible, study history, and use logic. These all made Joseph as sharper tool in the Lord’s hand.

Ultimately, the real question is did Joseph Smith restore the ascension rites under the direction of God, or did he borrow it from Masonry – and it is just dead quaint philosophy? If we answer that, the questions of did he use this from Masonry, and that from the Baptist becomes irrelevant.

I participated in a discussion about Masonry and Mormons at TheBackYardProfessor.com that I think discussed these issues pretty well; Masonry Discussion.

I vote friend.

77 comments:

mystic monkey said...

If masons are using the remnants of a sacred ritual, shouldn't we think their actions are wrong? We don't like sacred rituals to even be discussed outside our temples - why is it ok for masons to mimic them?

Also, why would Joseph Smith be taught about the truth through viewing a corrupt ritual rather than just getting the truth straight, without worldly interference? When he asked which church was true, he wasn't told to attend them all and glean what remnants of the truth he could. He was told they were wrong. Then he received revelation about what was true for himself.

David Littlefield said...

Mystic Money:

Great comments again.

I shall attempt to answer your questions in several different ways.

One way of viewing the world is to see the existing institutions through a lens describing their foundations, their status before God as they continued through time, and their current status. This could be called a “prophetic description.” This is the type of view employed in much of scripture, it’s the type of thinking that was used by John in the Book of Revelation to call the Catholic Church the “whore of all the earth” (not buying Robinson’s view).

But in understanding these things we need to grasp things on multiple levels.

Hugh Nibley told a graduating class at BYU that they wore the robes of a false priesthood [1]. Nibley saw the university as an apostate institution, a false version of the temple with its own clergy, doctrine, robes, and structures. Nibley understood these things on one level, but on another level he loved the university and it was a major part of his life.

On one level we can, as Joseph Smith did, understand that the Catholic Church and the whole of Protestantism are “wrong,” that the “teachers are all corrupt.” At the same time we can understand that the blessings of civilization in the western world largely rest upon the Christian principle preserved by their unauthorized custodians. Some would go as far as to say that God brought forth the reformers, not as priesthood holders, but as tools to set the stage for the restoration. This stage included a land of freedom where the gospel could be restored, imperfect as our nation is, the church did survive. This stage also had a people prepared, studied in the bible, that became the converts of the restoration.

Joseph Smith soaked in and thrived in this God made place. He learned Christian principles, he read their bible, enjoyed the freedom they created. And it would be a mistake to overlook Masonry’s part in the founding of the great American republic.

These were the framework that made up Joseph’s thinking, he interpreted the world through the English language and imagery. I guess that God could have raised Joseph in a cave by pure revelation, but like Moses, he was raised in a nation containing the fragments of earlier dispensations.

Masonry makes no claim of being a religion. I think they handle their fragmented remain very respectfully, considering all.

[1] Brother Brigham Challenges the Saints, Hugh Nibley, Don E. Norton, Shirley S. Ricks, Chapter 18.

David Littlefield said...

Mystic Monkey asked:

“Also, why would Joseph Smith be taught about the truth through viewing a corrupt ritual rather than just getting the truth straight, without worldly interference?”

I believe Joseph Smith saw in Masonry one theatrical presentation of the fragmented remains of earlier dispensations.

Some readers falsely assume Joseph just copied Masonic rituals into LDS temples, this just is not true. Here are a few of the significant difference:

LDS: Christ is the center of all temple ceremonies.
MASONIC: Any theology will do. Theology is tangential to the ceremonies.

LDS: Ceremonies portray Adam’s fall and the redemption, as a pattern for all men and women.
MASONIC: Ceremonies portray Solomon’s Temple with the story of three ruffians etc.. [1]

LDS: Believe ordinances are for salvation.
MASONIC: Ceremonies are not salvific.

LDS: Believe ordinances belong to the church
MASONIC: Believe Masonry is not a religion.

LDS: Restored by God through Joseph Smith, administered by priesthood..
MASONIC: View Masonry as either being passed down philosophy, or a late creation of noble ideas.

And the list goes on. Which of these views do you think best describe Adam's assension, Abraham's assension, Moses' Temple in the Wilderness, or Solomons temple?

The LDS temple endowment is only an abbreviated representation of a much larger body of teaching.

“Clearly the teaching and rituals that Adam received that make up his endowment were given over a period of time significantly longer than three hours. When an initiate attends the LDS temple they follow the pattern of Adam. What we receive in the temple today, as in Nauvoo, only signifies, or is representative of those same teaching and ordinances. Adam did not receive his endowment in English, so we know the words are different. When Abraham received his endowment he saw the heavens and the all the earth, we receive an abbreviated representation of the same teaching. It is a mistake to get stuck on the quantity and form.” [2]

What Joseph saw in Masonry, besides the fraternity (like the Boy Scouts), was a theatrical presentation of things. But just as Joseph restored true theology in protestant terms (to say with major revisions would be an understatement), he restored the temple using Masonic elements.


[1] “SOLMON. King of Israel and First Grand Master of Freemasonry.” (Masonic Lexicon 1886, pg. 445, Mackey).
[2] Littlefield at Masonry Discussion

Anonymous said...

Soon after the establishment of mormonism its founder, Joseph Smith, conceived the idea of establishing a Masonic super rite.

Mormon Masonic lodges were common bk then.

Most of Joseph's family were Royal Arch masons.

Masonry was always popular with the Mormons until Joseph Smith claimed that an angel of the Lord had brought him the lost key-words of several degress, enabling him to progress further than the highest Masons. The charter was then taken away by the Grand Lodge.

I'm sure Mazzini,Lemmi, and others must hv loved that.

Sure the angel of The Palladian Rite I would most agree with.

Check out the legend of the 14th degree of the Scottish rite, that if the Grand Elect Perfect and Sublime Mason. The gold plate and Enoch.

Corrupt Rituals? All of the greatest, Rosicruciana in Anglia,Kabbalist, Martinism, Egyptian magic Book of THE Dead right in the BOOK OF MORMON.

I wouldn't forget MR.Morgan JOSEPHS GOOD FRIEND. Such a gd friend that he married Morgans wife. Wonder why? Maybe to keep her quiet about the bk of MORGAN?

Anonymous said...

I stand corrected, After Morgan's death Lucinda married George Wasington Harris on Jan.12,1831,her new husband was also a mason. Joseph Smith married her in 1838 while still being married to HARRIS (when she was thirty-seven),Joseph was living at the HARRIS home in the Far west.(History of the church,vol.3pg 9)When the Harris family moved to Nauvoo, they were given a lot directly across from the Prophet and next door to that of Sarah Cleveland, another of Joseph's wives.
George Harris either knew at the time-orlearned later-of the relationship between his wife and the prophet, for he stood as proxy in the Nauvoo temple in JAnuary1846 when Lucinda was sealed to Joseph Smith "for eternity".

I will find you proof.

William Morgan's home was aprox. nine miles from the Smith household.

Pierceing the viel is all Royal Arch.

David Littlefield said...

Let me make sure I follow you, are saying that Morgan wrote the Book of Mormon?

Anonymous said...

Mr. Morgan may have had a degree of understanding of the authorship of the book. I'm sure as u may well agree that some pieces of the puzzle about the Book OF Mormon are yet to be uncovered.

David Littlefield said...

CORRECTED FROM AN EARLIER POST:

What proof do you have that the Prophet Joseph Smith ever met Morgan? Because Joseph married Morgan's wife after Morgan's death, you choose to insinuate that Morgan wrote the Book of Mormon, and soil the Prophets name?

Is that what you want your public declaration to be? Are these the words you wish to be judged on?

-David

David Littlefield said...

ANON SAID:

“Mr. Morgan may have had a degree of understanding of the authorship of the book.”

DAVID SAYS:

I don’t know what that means. That could be said of anyone who ever lived. Of course what you are insinuating is that; 1.) The Book of Mormon was not given to Joseph Smith by an angel. 2.) That Morgan had some knowledge of the true authorship. Both of which are completely un-founded, and are just the wishes of anti-Mormons.

ANON SAID:

“I'm sure as u may well agree that some pieces of the puzzle about the Book OF Mormon are yet to be uncovered.”

DAVID SAYS:

Again I don’t know what you mean by this statement. If you mean that there are yet many spiritual insights to unfold to you from the Book of Mormon, Yes I am sure that is right.

If you are again insinuating that the Book of Mormon is of false origin, and you are continuingly puzzled by how the many proofs of the Book exist. All I can say is continue your journey.

-David

Anonymous said...

The dog returns and eats its Vomit.The Vomit is Masonary.and if you are Mormon it is hard not to return and eat it.
Why Because Joseph Smith and the First 6 Prophets of Mormonism Died as masons with out ever denouncing Freemasonary, and if you are a "Good Mormon" you are forced to dance around the Truth that Masonary is Luciferian,
Some may view an attack against freemasonary as an attack on Mormonism,Have a little bit of intellectual honesty and view masonary for what it is and then Deal with the Truth and Mormonism's relationship to Masonary.
Make your own conclusions
Have a little courage to for Truth's sake to put on objective glasses and view Masonary for what it is.
To understand better, go back to the Very Beginning in the garden
Masonary is a Religion even though some may say it is Not.
Masonary is Luciferianism, not Satanism, Masonary leans to the Light of Lucifer,
To have a context one must understand a few Terms and Words.
Masonary is the religion of Wisdom.
Pure Philo-Sophia(Lover Of Sophia)
to Build upon this Theme one must
do a Yahoo search for a few words
"SOPHIA" and "LILLITH" or "LILITH" and "OSIRIS" and "ISIS"
may you return from your trip to the under world in saftey!!!

Anonymous said...

FEAR NOT!!!!
THE TRUTH DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE TRUTH !!!!!!!!!
its is a straight line not to be feared.The TRUTH will make you free Jesus Is the WAY,the TRUTH,and the LIGHT.
The truth is on the Level
center yourself with plumb bob
The truth can endure the 3rd Degree
Truth is squared and Circumspect
and Jesus is the Master Builder and Cheif Corner stone

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Anonymous said...

Some may view comments about Gnosticism/Mysticism/Masonary to be over the top.
There are at least two camps, there Jews and Christians who are not into Mysticism and Gnosticism.
Although one can be taught the mysteries of the Kingdom of God on Earth, That definition relates to being Taught of God and Gifts of the Holy Ghost,and is for those who are Saved by grace thru Faith,not the Tower Builders,(MASONS)Gnostics and those into Mysticism.
And you have Jews and Christians who are into Mysticism and Gnosticism.
There are differences and there are hitorical definitions to the words GNOSTICISM and MYSTICISM.
In a pure and historical sense the Study of the Mysteries refers to the Study of the Mystery of the Egyptian/Babylonian Mysteries and the Various incarntions of Nimrod/Osiris/Isis
Tammuz/Horus(Hislop; THE TWO BABYLONS)In Reference to the same MYSTERY,BABYLON THE GREAT, THE WHORE OF ALL THE EARTH,THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS.
To get a Luciferian point of veiw concerning the definition of the Mysteries see(Manely P Hall)
see "THEOSOPHY" and "PHILOSOPHICAL RESEARCH SOCIETY"
Now to move on to Gnosticism the Gnostics are Luciferian.
Some may find these assertions as being baseless.
to Gain an understanding of these Terms of Gnosticism a word search for the Following is Recommended; "SOPHIA""LITITH"
"St JOHN GNOSTIC" "GNOSTICISM"
"PTOLEMY"
Masonary is Gnosticism and Freemasons are a Members of St John's Lodge.
The "first" freemasonic lodge was created of St John's Day
June 24th Look up "LITHA"
Freemasonry is The Mystery school and is Lover of Sophia.
Some may say what is wrong with a lodge of St John,go look up the above described Words

David Littlefield said...

ANON suggests several times that we do an internet search for various names and topics in combination, suggesting that the results somehow provide proof of his claims.

But I suggest that just finding a bunch of web sites written by crazy, ignorant, and angry people is not proof of anything.

If Anon has a point to make, present the proof. I can’t spend the time searching the crazy underworld for proof of your points.

-DAVID

David Littlefield said...

ANON WROTE:

“Brigham Young did not have the nicest things to say of the Black race either”

Context is everything in quoting historical figures. Your attempt to besmirch the two prophet’s names must be tempered with the times in which they lived. The LDS people did not have slavery among them. When Joseph Smith made his remarks about sending blacks back to Africa, it was about freeing them from slavery, making them free and sending them home. Your attempt to imply a modern day racism betrays your dishonesty to things LDS. Your problem is just that the church exists.

Anonymous said...

True to the Point.
The truth does not change.As truth is eternal and does not turn to the left or right.Jesus Christ is the Way,the Truth and the Light.
Jesus Fulfilled the Law.But he never changed the truth.
The question of freemasonary friend or foe?
I shall attempt to give an overview in short form of freemasonary with out doing a rehash of afore mentioned topics and with the least amount of insult to the early brethern of the church.
I shall only quote facts from Masonic and Mormon refferences.
First off the Mormon church is a two dimensional religion.its is Basic Christianity like the Baptist and Pentacostals upto the point of Going into the Mormon Temple.
The Mormon Temple is a Whole new and Different Universe.
You cannot seperate Mormonism from Freemasonry, although the Mormons Went silent on the Topic of freemasonry in the early 1900s.
Remember the First SIX prophets of the Church were Master masons
In freemasonry there is what is known as the blue Lodge and in the Blue Lodge there are only 3 Degrees
1,Entered Apprentice 2,Fellow Craft
3,Master Mason. Master Mason is the Highest degree in the Blue Lodge.
Mormon Temples were intoduced as a "New" revelation AFTER
Joseph Smith was elevated to the 3rd degree of freemasonry a Master Mason.
The freemason were not delighted with Joseph Smith for
3 Main reasons
#1 in Mason Temples one swears before God men and angels present.to Concel and never revel the Signs,Tokens,Grips Passwords and Penalties to Non Masons.when Joseph Smith estabished the New Temple he renamed the Signs Tokens,Grips Passwords and Penalties of freemasonry of the Blue Lodge with its 3 Degrees and called it the "new" Endowment/Initation.
#2 Joseph Smith claims to Have all of the Lost Keys and Lost Keys Words of freemasonry.
Joseph Smith's claims to have Heavenly Masonry above and Beyond this Earth and the Freemasons.
#3 Joseph Smith lets Women participate in his "new" and again exposes freemasonary to non-masons and to women.

Blacks are not considered free or accepted in freemasonry and were denied Membership in freemasonary and not partakers of the Preisthood.
Masons Have both of the Preisthoods Upper and Lower
(Aaronic and Melk)
In Mormonism Blacks could not Hold the Preisthood until "God changed his Mind" in 1980 also the Gospel was not to be preached to Cain's children although they could join the church.
There is a more political correctness about Blacks in Mormon Modern times. Perhaps you would care to explain in laymens terms why Blacks could not Hold the preisthood prior to "God changing his mind" in 1980. and what was the curse of Cain(Negros and Blacks)
Speaking of Cain and Master Mahans as one becomes a Master Mason in the 3rd degree of Blue Lodge the Password is "Tubal Cain"
Freemasonary with all of it's self described Orgins as the Masons who built the Tower of Babel fit perfectly in descriptions in the BOM and PGP as being the Seceret societies.
Also Hiram Abiff is a fictional character who is really Osiris/Horus as openly admitted by most masonic scholars
As a canidate becomes a freemason they are made to be half naked, Blind folded and Hoodwinked they have a flaxen cord placed on thier Neck and are cabled Towed into the Temple and Bow Before at the Alter and the Three Lights of Freemasonry ;the Book,the Square, and the Compass
the Mason canidate is receaved on the Sharp point of the Compass
Also in masonary they refer to themselves as being St John's Lodge in the Verbal exchange of initation. Masons Never refer to Jesus in the Blue Lodge, That is the Gnostic Connection the forerunners to Freemasons were the
"Knights of St John" the "Joanites" and "Hugh de Payens" and "Knights Templar" as one Must understand Masonary to understand Mormon Temples One must understand the "Gnostic sects of St John" to understand Freemasons.
for one to say friend or foe of freemasonry.you really have need to see beyond the leaves and see the roots and branches of freemasonary and I say Foe and Lucifer if the Quested "more light" of freemasonary and the roots are deep in hell.
Please see
"St john Freemasonry"
Please see
"gnosticism" at "about"
Please see
"St John gnostic"
now you have a starting place to view masonary

Anonymous said...

As to Joseph Smith and the Blacks
the question was in relationship to the preisthood and masonry's position of not allowing Blacks into freemasonry.
And who ever said that what Brigham had to say about Blacks was not true, but for sure it was not nice.

Anonymous said...

To see the back side of the Hairy Mand of the Mason Man,Look up
"LITHA"(st Johns Day)
St John is the Patron Saint of freemasonry. and the Temple Lodge is known as St John's Lodge.
In Santeria Cuban Black Religion you have your "saints"
with all of their "Christian"
names but the truth is there is always a More real African/Egyptian
"god" represented by the"saint"
so to worship you have all of your saints in procession and the foolish on looker think its
"Christian" celebration just like a Satan's Claws Parade.
"Oh what Fun it is"

Anonymous said...

I found a "Good" link about Freemasonry.
(conspiracyarchive.com/freemasonry.htm

Anonymous said...

Correction
www.conspiracyarchive.com

Anonymous said...

Gather Round all yea seekers of More Light and students of the Light Bearer(Lucifer)Here is a tale to tell that may change your coarse away from hell.
Hyram oh Hiram !!!!!
One Grand Mafon !!!!!
One Grand Mason!!!!!!!
In times old and often did we meet
FFFFFFFFF & SSSSSSSSSS in exchange and sweet
Abiffffff or Abissssss
as was custom to say,
and things Egyptian more then than now, and what is "Ibis" and "Thoth"?

Thou art the "god" of wisdom and magick now,the god of the Night and the Moon fowl.
In the Hours of Horus thou didst chart Time, in the Eye of Os-iris thou did heal all with thine Sight.
With the words of thy lips thou did raise Osiris to Light.

The"Lost Word" of our Lodge the
god of the Abiss/Abiff
To us and the World you were lost and now Found,We ever pray for resurrection from the Ground, in search of More Light and the Lost Word.
In your name High-Ram Abifs you did Hide and in the low shores of the eb and low Tide, the phases of the Moon you cast shadows at Night.
Oh Master Hiram Abisf thou are in plain sight surely thou art THOTH or Ibis the Master of Might

Anonymous said...

St John's Lodge(Freemasons)
the Johannites are the freemasons in modern times.
To best understand who the mason are or who they claim to be is best viewed by examining thier Blue Lodge iniations the 3 Degrees of Glory in freemason with give one enough to see who they claim who they are, where they came from, and where they are going.
As mentioned above in previous links you can view their Blue Lodge iniation in total and Judge for yourself, here is another important word in the discovery of free masonry "johannite"

Anonymous said...

It only gets Deeper.lets look at the mixing of Witches pot and lets see what we get and lets see if we go full circle.
So there is a chain of cohesiveness look up each word and do your own research and come to your own conclusion.
Mormon. Freemasons.
Nights Templar.Johannites.
"the order at Mormont"
Mommon/Mormont is this a Clang?
Hymm?
The Knights Templar were accused of Joining the Order at Mormont
the Johannites(Mormons)
Come come ye Saints!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

3 heavens Thoth and Hermes of the Greeks, masons Hiram, and are they the same?

Anonymous said...

Though Hard to you this Journey may be
www.geocities.com/shogiinstitute/
temples.text

Anonymous said...

correction
www.geocities.com/shoghiinstitute/
temples.txt

Anonymous said...

Jesus is the Way, the Truth and Light.
Masons are always on the Quest for more Light.
The masons do not see Jesus as the Light, and if they Did they will have Found the Light.
As long a mason is looking for the False Light(Lucifer) they remain in darkness and cannot know Jesus.
It really is not too Hard to understand.
You shall know the truth and the Truth shall set you Free.
There is no such thing as a Free-Mason all Masons are bound by a Flaxen cord around there Neck and are Cabel Towed around by thier Worshipful Master(lucifer,Not Jesus)
Christians cannot Bow down at the Alter of Freemasonry and allow themselves to deny their Heavenly Riches,and proclaim to be a poor blind beggar,and ploclaim to be one in Darkness,(Deny Jesus as the Light) and to have a Flaxen Cord placed on their neck and to be Hood-Winked.
As part of the Masonic Rituals, Jesus is not Mentioned. Deadly and Bloody Oaths are adminstered.
You join Lucifer Universal Mafia Church and Swear on your Life in more than 3 Ways to Keep all of the Satanic Secerets,Seceret. and no it is not a Symbols of 3 Degrees of Glory. It Is the 3 Degrees of Death
It is absolute and Foolish to Swear on you Life(Throat,Heart, Bowels) to Keep deadly Penalties Seceret.Jesus said Do not swear at All. Masonary Lies and proclaims itself to Not Be A Religion.
It is the Religion Of Lucifer and Deadly as thier oath and penalties Declare.
Lucifer is the Light of Masonry not Jesus

Anonymous said...

The unlearned Idiot!!!
How can one view Freemasonry as anything less than false Religion?
Masonry is "Universal"
The universal religion and the Mystery School of darkness not Light.
Masonry is mixer of the masses.
Like the Religion of the Devil or as Self-described the New Age.
The Lucifer said "there is no Devil and I am not One"
Just like the Mason says they are not a religion.
The pride and arrogance of the Freemasons in Administering Lucifers
Secret,Deadly,Bloody penalties having people swear by their Lives
(Throat,Heart,Bowels)
What Godly force would bind man to Death and Hell for telling thier Secrets? what Holy Purpose or Un-Holy purpose, reason or un-reason
would there be to Administer the Oaths of Death and the Devil?
Working, Binding and Bondage Hood-Winked and lead By flaxen Cord.
Tubal Cain or Jesus Christ!!! One or the Other
Jesus Said Swear not at All.
If you were Deceived.Wake up and
REPENT and see the Light

Anonymous said...

Just for the record look up previous note Search Words in any Encyclopedia of Freemasonry a few "good" word searches "Johannites"
"Johannite Masonary"
"John's Brothers"
Those who have eyes to see

David Littlefield said...

Anon Said:

“Just for the record look…”

With all due respect I can’t chase all around searching crazy web sites. If you have a link that has some relevance to the topic, post it.

-David

Anonymous said...

On this Blog you have a Link to a Freemason Encyclopedia.
Come yea out of Babylon!!!!
Fear Not the truth go ahead click the Link it on this Site
You will also notice in the
Freemason Encyclopedia under the Title word Jesus Christ that there is no reference to His Devine Son Ship or Being the Son of God
Freemasons are Gnostic/Luciferian
That is what is "CRAZY" and no you do not need to search all around.
Those who have ears to hear.

Anonymous said...

Do you think it would be at all possible.That someone would not think of Freemasonry as a Secret Society?
When in Mafia/Yakuza fashion you swear on your Life
(Throat,Heart,Bowels) to never revel and to ever concel the Dark Oaths and Covenants of Mystery School.
And is there anything Godly,Holy and Edifing in becomeing a Master Mason with the Secret Word
(Tubal Cain)
As you Become a Master Mason are you Received/Anointed will the Oil Of Gladness and Does the Holy Ghost Seal you UP
And in the "Temple" of the Freemason does the Father and Son Dwell there will there. is it the House of God (EL-LIZ-A-BETH) are you in the Presence of the
FATHER,SON AND HOLY GHOST?
Here is a Hint so you dont have to go searching and being crazy
If you were to sit in the Masonic "TEMPLE" you would find youself sitting next to your Brethern Like
Aliester Crowley(33rd Degree 666)
Albert Pike(33rd DegreeLuciferian)
Manley P Hall(33rd Degree Lucifer)

So before your eyes you see
Aliester,Albert and Manley Or the Father,Son and Holy Ghost
Tell me who do you follow Most?

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Anonymous said...

Masonry
Friend or Foe?
Lucifer voted "friend" notice the light

The true Mason is not creed-bound. He realizes with the divine illumination of his lodge that as Mason his religion must be universal: Christ, Buddha or Mohammed, the name means little, for he recognizes only the light and not the bearer.
The above is a Quote by
The Honary 33rd Degree Mason
Manley P Hall the masons Think Lucifer is the Way, the Truth, and Light and that Jesus the Christ is Just a NAME

Anonymous said...

Masons Love Lucifer as the God of Wisdom
"Humans were susposed to be slaves of the Gods. After their creation they were susposed to remain illiterate and dumb like animals. The Serpent God took it upon himself to change that and he did or you wouldn't be reading this right now!"
http://www.mastermason.com/
hiramdiscovered/forbiddenf~1.html

Anonymous said...

Masons Quest the Light(Lucifer)
Jesus
John 1: 5 And the light(JESUS) shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
1st John 1:5-8
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

As mentioned in other Places a Christian Cannot be a Mason
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/
Masonry is Lucifer Religion
"Masonry," writes Pike, however, in the Legenda for the Nineteenth Degree, "has and always had a religious creed. It teaches what it deems to be the truth in respect to the nature and attributes God"

"Hiram Abiff (if we may believe the sacred account) was himself a Grand Master of this most noble order of pagan builders. Hiram Abiff, though himself a member of a different faith, journeyed from his own country to design and supervise the erection of the Everlasting House to the true God on Mount Moriah. The tools of the builders' craft were first employed by the Dionysians as symbols under which to conceal the mysteries of the soul and the secrets of human regeneration."
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/
roscrucian_and_masonic_origins.htm
"What are emphatically called the mysteries, is but another name for religion"
A Masonic View of Mormonism
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/
mormonisn_and_masonry.htm
ENOUGH SAID

Anonymous said...

In the Freemasonic 33rd "Honary" degree the canidate drinks blood from a Human Skull and the masons are unashamed of being the Builders of the Tower at Babylon,The following is a questionable decription of how it might have happened
5. As he did observe and do all things after a heavenly pattern, save that he did corrupt and add unto it many things.

26. And upon each brick he did write the name of his god, which was the god of darkness who rebelled in the beginning.

27. And thus each portion of his house he sealed, both with blood and names of power from the book of Adam and Havah.

28. Seven levels did Nimrod aspire to build, each more grand and hallowed in evil than the one before it.

29. And there were steps that rose up upon the face of this tower.

30. And on each step was placed a host of men, and any man who would not abide on his appointed step was roasted and eaten by those that remained faithful to this evil.

31. And they did war one with another in organized war, to see who it was that was mightier, and who it was that was the more evil.

32. And they drank their blood from cups made from the skulls of those they ate, and thus was the kingdom of Nimrod established in fear and power in a manner abhorrent to all righteous ones.
static.flickr.com/104/291718537_2f3f89556b.jpg www.nwcreation.net/images/tower_of_babel_small.JPG

Anonymous said...

Beyond our present Ignorance?

Masonry is Luciferian.They worship Lucifer,in the Garden Story Lucifer is the Hero and Partaking of the Tree was a "Good" thing

Eden was a place controlled by an 'Elohim god' who didn't like humans and didn't want them to be educated. He wanted them to be 'slaves' and nothing more.

What we do know for sure is that historical and archaeological evidence can no longer be called 'Myth' by the church. But according to church doctrine, and their deliberate missinterpretion of the Hebrew scriptures, apparently the God in the King James bible forbid us to be educated -- When he told Adam and Eve, "Thou shalt not eat from the Tree of Knowledge".
May every Mason Gnosis the Truth

Anonymous said...

the Johannites the Gnostics/Mysticism
the Lodge of St John and the Masons are of the Luciferian Doctrine as are thier Rituals
The God of Knowledge is the true God. He is in the bible but until now we did not recognise him. We identify him on here and on 'Passage forward' as the God of Knowledge.

For some gnostics and early Christian sects, the serpent of Genesis was viewed not as the villiain of the book, but as the hero. It was he, after all, who brought divine wisdom to man. The god in Genesis had told Adam not to eat the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge, for if he did he “would surely die.” But Adam and Eve did eat the fruit, and they didn’t die. In other words, God was wrong and the serpent was right. The serpent told the truth, and God had lied. Certain Gnostics and Christians thought that this was surely the intended subtext of Genesis. Evidence that they may have been correct can be seen in what amounts to an Aramaic pun. In this now-dead language, used at the time of Christ, the words for “serpent” and “to instruct” are nearly identical. The serpent had instructed Eve to eat of the Tree of Life, and in following his advice, she gained wisdom. Viewed in this light, how could the serpent not be seen as the hero of Genesis?

“Christ came as a manifestation of the light-bearing serpent... The serpent brought humanity knowledge (gnosis) of good and evil (Genesis 3:1-7), and can further aid man in getting the fruit of eternal life, thus making man like God, or like Christ.”

Anonymous said...

A Doctrine that Mormonism borrows from the Masons.The Idea of the Fall being a Leap of Faith and a Good and Godly thing before the Lord, the Sin.Disobedience to the Lord and to obey Lucifer is looked upon as Great. In the Mormon view the Fall is more like the First Step Up toward Exhaltation.
4 And he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive and to blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice.
The "Fall" came as a result of obeying the Serpent("lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice"). and as a Result of not obeying God and then in contradiction to the whole seen Eve speaks of "the Obedient"
10 And the serpent said unto the woman: Ye shall not surely die;
11 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

10 And in that day Adam blessed God and was filled, and began to prophesy concerning all the families of the earth, saying: Blessed be the name of God, for because of my transgression my eyes are opened, and in this life I shall have joy, and again in the flesh I shall see God.
11 And Eve, his wife, heard all these things and was glad, saying: Were it not for our transgression we never should have had seed, and never should have known good and evil, and the joy of our redemption, and the eternal life which God giveth unto all the obedient.
In Praise of Obeying the Serpent Adam says "because of my transgression my eyes are opened" and Eve says "Were it not for our transgression we never should have had seed, and never should have known good and evil,
Eve desires Wisdom and Finds the Fruit Pleasant and Good.
The real question is did Adam and Eve really feel repentant and a have desire for forgiveness for such a praise Worthy and Nobel deed in following the Serpent.
This is Gnostic/Masonic doctrine and this "View" of the Fall is a Gnostic view and not Christian.
A note on how the Masons view the calander and Time.The Mason Date time with the following
A.L.6007 Anis Lucis (Lucifer/Light) or the year of light and Wisdom A.L. 6007 or in our time 2007 from the Light of Christ as the Mason date to the Time of Lucifer Light and the "fall"

Anonymous said...

Masons, Freind or Foe ?
Let the Facts Speak for themself.
The following statement is recorded in Joseph Smith's History of the Church, volume 4, page 551, under the date of March 15, 1842: "In the evening I received the first degree in Free Masonry in the Nauvoo Lodge, assembled in my general business office." The record for the very next day reads: "I was with the Masonic Lodge and rose to the sublime degree" (vol. 4, p.552)
Although Joseph Smith found himself in trouble with the Masons, he is said to have given the Masonic signal of distress just before he was murdered.
(Masonic Textexcept Furthermore do I promise and swear, that I will not give the grand hailing sign of distress except I am in real distress)
When the enemy surrounded the jail, rushed up the stairway, and killed Hyrum Smith, Joseph stood at the open window, his martyr-cry being these words, "O Lord My God!" This was not the beginning of a prayer, because Joseph Smith did not pray in that manner. This brave, young man who knew that death was near, started to repeat the distress signal of the Masons, expecting thereby to gain the protection its members are pledged to give a brother in distress...
Life of Heber C. Kimball, p.26: "Joseph, leaping the fatal window, gave the Masonic signal of distress."
In times past in Utah the Masons did not allow a Mormon to become a member of their fraternity because of the things that happened in Nauvoo. One of the most important reasons for this ban is that they feel Joseph Smith stole part of the Masonic ritual and included it in his temple ceremony.
Now to come at it all from another angle.
The Oaths and Covenants of Masonry and Mormon were so close in the 1st 3 Degrees of Masonry That the Sign,Tokens,Hand Shakes and Penalties were almost exactly the same except that some but not all the Names were Changed.But the Bloody Death oaths in all Three Degrees were exactly the same and Mormon Masons( Joseph Smith, Joseph's brother Hyrum, Heber C. Kimball, Elijah Fordham, Newel K. Whitney, James Adams, and John C. Bennett and the first Six Prophets)did Bind themselves to Both Oaths
These Oaths and Penalties Are Bloody and Deadly are were at odds with each other .
It is impossible to Please God,The Masons and Up hold Mormon Temple Rites all at the same time.
The fact is those Bloody and Deadly Oaths and Covenants are an Abomination before the Lord.
There Never was any Rightousness in Swearing Bloody Death oaths in the Name of God God By your Head,Heart or Bowels,as the scriptures Confirm.
Moses 5:29 And Satan said unto Cain: Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die.
51 For, from the days of Cain, there was a secret acombination, and their works were in the dark, and they knew every man his brother.
Helaman 6: 22 And it came to pass that they did have their signs, yea, their secret signs, and their secret words; and this that they might distinguish a brother who had entered into the covenant, that whatsoever wickedness his brother should do he should not be injured by his brother, nor by those who did belong to his band, who had taken this covenant...
(Masonic Text Master Mason Degree) Furthermore do I promise and swear that a Master Mason's secrets, given to me in charge as such, and I knowing them to be such, shall remain as secure and inviolable in my breast as in his own, when communicated to me, murder and treason excepted; and they left to my own election.
Helaman 6: 21 But behold, Satan did stir up the hearts of the more part of the Nephites, insomuch that they did unite with those bands of robbers, and did enter into their covenants and their oaths, that they would protect and preserve one another in whatsoever difficult circumstances they should be placed, that they should not suffer for their murders, and their plunderings, and their stealings.
JESUS the CHRIST says "But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head,(Life,Heart,Bowels) because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
Now I hope that everyone can see the Work of Lucifer in Masonry. Masonry is Satanic, The lost Lucifer/Light of Masonry is Lucifer and Not Jesus Christ.
The footprints in the Masonic sands of Time Belong to The Devil

Anonymous said...

If we accept that “Mysticism” is the study of ordinances you can’t avoid discussing “Masonry.” [Hugh Nibley, Temple and Cosmos: Beyond This Ignorant Present, Deseret Book, pg. 28.]
Here is Blue Lodge Masonry
(1st 3 Degrees) in all its Glory.
http://www.utlm.org/onlinebooks/
captmorgansfreemasonry1.htm
Now read Moses 5:,Heleman 6-9
Ether 8-10
If you followed the link on Masonry and read it, you should have no doubt that secret combinations spoken of include Masonry.
And it came to pass that they all sware unto him, by the God of heaven, and also by the heavens, and also by the earth, and by their heads,
Yea, wo be unto you because of that great abomination which has come among you; and ye have united yourselves unto it, yea, to that secret band which was established by Gadianton!
And it came to pass that they formed a secret combination, even as they of old; which combination is most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God;
For the Lord worketh not in secret combinations, neither doth he will that man should shed blood, but in all things hath forbidden it, from the beginning of man.
Cain and Lucifer exchanged Bloody and Deadly Oaths and Covenants from the beginning and Masonry Continues to Adminster Lucifer and Cains work Today.
"Ultimately, the real question is did Joseph Smith restore the ascension rites under the direction of God, or did he borrow it from Masonry – and it is just dead quaint philosophy? If we answer that, the questions of did he use this from Masonry, and that from the Baptist becomes irrelevant".
Ultimately open your eyes to the truth Masonry is of Lucifer!!!

David Littlefield said...

THIS POST BY ANON WAS MOVED INTO THIS SCTION BY DAVID.

Rites of Exaltation
“…but that is what Christ meant by the mysteries of the kingdom. He meant ordinances, which were necessary; and these he revealed to the apostles during his very confidential teachings of the forty days after the resurrection.” [1]
If we accept that “Mysticism” is the study of ordinances you can’t avoid discussing “Masonry.

And I will not avoid it

Mormon Mysticism
Joe Swick Mason Mormon says regarding the similar Ordinances in Mormonism and Masonry;Yes, it is. Yet Joseph Smith, Heber C. Kimball and others knew and commented on the Masonic connections. Even in Joseph's own day, the Endowment was referred to as "Joseph's Lodge." I assure you that this was not because of a few superficial similarities in wording and grips. The two rituals are conceptually very similar, and use similar devices... As a Mormon and a Master Mason, I assure you that if I were to get *really* technical, the list of similarities are pervasive and deep. It is not just the square and compasses (I don't know why you hesitate to use the terms here, because they are chisled onto public LDS buildings in Utah), but the relative positioning of them, and the moving of clothing from one side of the body to the other to "display" the appropriate symbol.Yes there is. Passing through veils and prayer circles are associated with the Holy Royal Arch, also known as the Rite of Exaltation. This ritual includes an entering into the presence of a Grand Council and having restored that which has been lost. Just as admittance is gained into any Lodge by the giving of "three distinct knocks," so a certrain "knocking" is a part of the Holy Royal Arch.

Now lets look at Christian Mysteries,
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Eph. 3: 3-4, 9
3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
• • •
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Acts 7: 51,
51 ¶ Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye
John 14: 26
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things,
1 Tim. 3: 9, 16
9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
• • •
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory
Eph 1:9-13
9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one call things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
But God hath revealed [them] unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

1Cor 2:11-12 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Anonymous said...

EXALTATION and the ROYAL ARCH
The Verse,Words of Masonry have a
Familiar Spirit!!!!!
"253:1 At my first exaltation, I was taught to believe it an ancient degree; but I confess, that even at that period I entertained considerable doubts on the point."
"The true version of the history of Jesus, and the early Christianity was imparted to Hugh de Payens, by the Grand-Pontiff of the Order of the Temple (of the Nazarene or Johanite sect), one named Theocletes, after which it was learned by some Knights in Palestine, from the higher and more intellectual members of the St. John sect, who were initiated into its mysteries.(1) Freedom of intellectual thought and the restoration of one and universal religion was their secret object. Such is the tradition and the true kabalistic version."
"It is through them that modern Masons have all they know of importance; and the similarity now found between the Speculative Rites of antiquity, the mysteries of the Essenes, Gnostics, and the Hindus, and the highest and oldest of the Masonic degrees well prove the fact."
"The Christ Jesus was, in their opinion, a false prophet, but the man Jesus a Brother. They regarded John the Baptist as their patron, but never viewed him in the light in which he is presented in the Bible. They reverenced the doctrines of alchemy, astrology, magic, kabalistic talismans, and adhered to the secret teachings of their chiefs in the East"
"Such also is the case in the Blue Lodge, where the Master, representing King Solomon, agrees with King Hiram that the Word * * * "shall be used as a substitute for the Master's word, until wiser ages shall discover the true one."
"Royal Arch Mason in the York Rite and contains many layers of complexity within its ritual. A candidate for Exaltation is required to have been a Master Mason for four weeks or more"
"I furthermore promise and swear, that I will not assist or be present at the exaltation of a candidate to this Degree, who has not received the Degrees of Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft, Master Mason, Mark Master, Past Master, and Most Excellent Master."
"Principal Sojourner--We have examined the secret vault, Most Excellent, and here is what we have found in it."
"High Priest (to candidates.)--Are you willing to continue your labors, and still further penetrate this secret vault?
High Priest (to King)--Companion, here is a very ancient-looking book; what can it be? Let us read in it."
"The additional Degrees, including those considered legitimate, amount to upward of fifty. These are founded partly upon astronomical principles, agreeing with the ancient worship of the Egyptians, and partly upon the Hebrew and Christian doctrines"
"A. To the penalty of my obligation, that I would sooner have my skull struck off than divulge any of the secrets of this Degree unlawfully,"
The work of GOD???????
http://www.sacred-texts.com/
mas/dun/dun08.htm

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Mormons realize that when they are working out their Exaltation with fear and trembling
that they are working in the Royal Arch degree of Freemasonry.
You have the 3 degrees of masonry tied to the three degrees of glory and to perfect your Master Mason degree you go on to the Royal Arch Degree, also know as The Rite of Exaltation.
Exaltation is Mormon High Heaven and the 7th degree of the York Rite and the Scottish Rite.
You can only receive Exaltation if your Calling and Election is Made sure. This Rite is not openly spoken of but there are many references to it thru out Mormon Scripture.
To better understand the Rite of Exaltation we should view the 7th Degree of Glory in Masonry.
Lets see where Masonry in Mormonism points us
Three Degrees of Glory and Three Degrees in the Highest. 3+3 =3 and 3 degree or the 33 Degrees of Freemasonry
But why stop there there are also Masonic Rites that impart 99 Degrees of Glory
3+33 or 33 and 33 and 33 or the 99 degrees of Glory

David Littlefield said...

The real question is "Is the idea of three kingdoms real or not?" You base your ideas on that view that Masonry is evil, and comes from the devil, or evil Egyptian mythology, or some other evil source, and that Mormonism stole these ideas from Masonry. This is just false. Clearly the idea of degrees of glory has been taught since the Plan of Salvation (fall and redemption) has been taught (as I have posted on several times on this blog). It is in the Old Testament, the New Testament, less defined but present in the Book of Mormon, and is very clear in modern revelation. Masonry borrowed this idea from the bible, not the other way around.
-David

David Littlefield said...

And, if someone was on an island and had only the bible as a source they would understand degrees of glory as a gospel teaching, without any knowledge of Masonry.

So, we must conclude that Joseph Smith's teaching of degrees of glory, which flew in the face of most so called bible teachers was not only right, but courageous. The fact that that teaching also exists in Masonry is a point for Masonry, not a point against Joseph Smith. You have it all backwards.

-David

David Littlefield said...

And, you start from the premise that Masonry is evil, and that premise clouds you vision, and corrupts all your logic.

-David

Anonymous said...

david littlefield said...
And, you start from the premise that Masonry is evil, and that premise clouds you vision, and corrupts all your logic.



I think there were two Trees in the Garden.What was the real drama? what was the Power behind each tree? What was the Godly and Holy action?What was not? If one views the Fall as one giant step upto Exaltation it taints your whole view and the nature of God and Holy-ness.Who was Lucifer and who was God? Who was good and who was bad? Who was right who was wrong?
Who was the Liar and who was not?Does God like Obedience or Not?
Answer these "Two" questions what were the Trees and what was good and bad?

Anonymous said...

Freemasonry and it's "REAL" orgins, and until we get this, we are sipping milk.

Anonymous said...

3 Degrees of Glory or 9 0r 33 0r 99
the Rewards and Mansions are in the Father's House only "In my Father's House are many Mansions"
In Mormonsim there are 9 Degrees of Glory
3 Kingdoms with at least 3 Levels each.
3+3= 9 not 3 and there is also outerdarkness.
Nine heavens Not 3, plus + rewards and judgements and working out your salvation with fear and trembling. There might be a few other places in between.Here are other numbers you could make use of 12, 7, 360, 365, 70, 144, 54, 8, etc and the numbers of the sands of the sea and the stars of the sky. pick a Number as you wish .
Maybe heaven is one or more you pick!!!

Anonymous said...

I Did not mean to double post.

I found an interesting Article on the Mormon View of the "FALL" and you must admit that the Mormon View is More Gnostic than Christian , But you might like that
http://www.angelfire.com/ms/seanie/
mormon/originalsin2.html

1Objection #1:"The Fall was not a sin because God planned it”
Objection #2: " It was not a sin ; it was a transgression”
Objection #3: "It was not a sin because it was not a command”

Anonymous said...

John Quincy Adams, sixth President of the United States, was a determined opponent of the secret society and fraternity of Freemasonry, the Masonic Lodge. The question of Freemasonry and the controversy over its character has long been debated. But for John Quincy Adams, writer, poet, faithful husband, patriot, former Ambassador and Secretary of State, and President, there was no question. The teachings and practices of the Lodge, Adams asserted, are detrimental, noxious, and unfortunate. John Quincy Adams was persuaded that the Masonic Lodges were a bane to society, evil, and Luciferian.

Anonymous said...

Masonic Temples of God? Of Lucifer?
In the Masonic Writings the Masons claim that Masons are of the Craft of Tubal Cain - The Masons Have a Relationship to God From the Luciferian perspective-
Luciferians, Cabalist, Magickians, all believe in "lords" Many and "gods" Many. The Gnostic "Light" is the persuit. Always rising and raising one's self Like building a Tower to Heaven- These Gnostics were Mighty Hunters Against the Lord as was Nimrod-
It is said that Nimrod was in open rebellion Against God and defied The Gospel- Nimrod was of Cain and Tubal Cain and created The Unified Religion of the World- And tied all to SON/SUN worship that is why Lucifer is Worshiped thru out Time and Religion WORLD WIDE on Dec 25th- This Paganized Worship
is Emblematic of LUCIFER in Freemasonry and Most of Christianity. High-Ram-Abiss (Hyram Abiff) Santa Clause.......
How Are the Masons tied to The LORD and Lucifer?
ANS. Thru the Oath and Covenants of Lucifer, Swearing in the Name of and Against the LORD
(Remember) AGAINST the LORD- Swearing Death and Blood oath by their very Nature are against the LORD. These Oaths and Covenants are Against GOD and are Religious in Nature.
www.mastermason.com/hiramdiscovered/
29And Satan said unto Cain: Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living GOD, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die; and this that thy father may not know it; and this day I will deliver thy brother Abel into thine hands.
30And Satan sware unto Cain that he would do according to his commands. And all these things were done in secret. 31And Cain said: Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great secret, that I may murder and get gain. Wherefore Cain was called Master Mahan, and he gloried in his wickedness.
Hel 6:17 they began to seek to get gain that they might be lifted up one above another; therefore they began to commit secret murders, and to rob and to plunder, that they might get gain.

Anonymous said...

Lucifer is In Power thru the OATH and COVENANTS of this False Priesthood PriestCraft WitchCraft-Hel 6: 21 Covenants and Witches Covens
21But behold, Satan did stir up the hearts of the more part of the Nephites, insomuch that they did unite with those bands of robbers, and did enter into their covenants and their oaths, that they would protect and preserve one another in whatsoever difficult circumstances they should be placed, that they should not suffer for their murders, and their plunderings, and their stealings.22And it came to pass that they did have their signs, yea, their secret signs, and their secret words; and this that they might distinguish a brother who had entered into the covenant, that whatsoever wickedness his brother should do he should not be injured by his brother, nor by those who did belong to his band, who had taken this covenant. 23And thus they might murder, and plunder, and steal, and commit awhoredoms and all manner of wickedness, contrary to the laws of their country and also the laws of their God.
OATHS AND COVENANTS OF LUCIFER-ARE THE SAME AS THOSE OF FREEMASONRY AND JESUITS
Here is the FREEMASONIC Linage to LUCIFER LAID OUT-
25Now behold, it is these secret oaths and covenants which Alma commanded his son should not go forth unto the world, lest they should be a means of bringing down the people unto destruction. 26Now behold, those secret oaths and covenants did not come forth unto Gadianton from the records which were delivered unto Helaman; but behold, they were put into the heart of Gadianton by that same being who did ENTICE our first parents to partake of the FORBIDDEN fruit—
27Yea, that same BEING who did plot with CAIN, that if he would murder his brother Abel it should not be known unto the world. And he did plot with CAIN and his FOLLOWERS from that time forth. 28And also it is that same being who put it into the hearts of the people to BUILD a TOWER sufficiently high that they MIGHT GET TO HEAVEN. And it was that same being who led on the people who came from that TOWER into this land; who spread the works of darkness and abominations over all the face of the land, until he dragged the people down to an entire destruction, and to an everlasting hell.
29Yea, it is that same being who put it into the heart of Gadianton to still carry on the work of darkness, and of secret murder; and he has brought it forth from the beginning of man even down to this time. FREEMASON AND THE RELIGION OF CAIN'S FOLLOWERS

Anonymous said...

MORMONS Behold, why have ye gathered yourselves together? That I may tell you of your iniquities?
14Yea, because I have got upon my tower that I might pour out my soul unto my God, because of the exceeding sorrow of my heart, which is because of your iniquities! 15And because of my mourning and lamentation ye have gathered yourselves together, and do marvel; yea, and ye have great need to marvel; yea, ye ought to marvel because ye are given away that the devil has got so great hold upon your hearts. 16Yea, how could you have given way to the enticing of him who is seeking to hurl away your souls down to everlasting misery and endless wo?
17O repent ye, repent ye! Why will ye die? Turn ye, turn ye unto the Lord your God. Why has he forsaken you?18It is because you have hardened your hearts; yea, ye will not hearken unto the voice of the good shepherd; yea, ye have provoked him to anger against you. 19And behold, instead of gathering you, except ye will repent, behold, he shall scatter you forth that ye shall become meat for dogs and wild beasts. 20 O, how could you have forgotten your God in the very day that he has delivered you?
21But behold, it is to get gain, to be praised of men, yea, and that ye might get gold and silver. And ye have set your hearts upon the riches and the vain things of this world, for the which ye do murder, and plunder, and steal, and bear dfalse witness against your neighbor, and do all manner of iniquity.
22And for this cause wo shall come unto you except ye shall repent. For if ye will not repent, behold, this great city (SLC), and also all those great cities which are round about, which are in the land of our possession, shall be taken away that ye shall have no place in them; for behold, the Lord will not grant unto you strength, as he has hitherto done, to withstand against your enemies.
23For behold, thus saith the Lord: I will not show unto the wicked of my strength, to one more than the other, save it be unto those who repent of their sins, and hearken unto my words. Now therefore, I would that ye should behold, my brethren, that it shall be abetter for the Lamanites than for you except ye shall repent. 24For behold, they are more righteous than you, for they have not sinned against that great knowledge which ye have received; therefore the Lord will be merciful unto them; yea, he will lengthen out their days and increase their seed, even when thou shalt be utterly destroyed except thou shalt repent. 25Yea, wo be unto you because of that great abomination which has come among you; and ye have united yourselves unto it, yea, to that secret band which was established by Gadianton! 26Yea, awo shall come unto you because of that pride which ye have suffered to enter your hearts, which has lifted you up beyond that which is good because of your exceedingly great riches!
27Yea, wo be unto you because of your wickedness and abominations! 28And except ye repent ye shall perish; yea, even your lands shall be taken from you, and ye shall be destroyed from off the face of the earth. FREEMASONIC OATHS AND COVENANTS ARE OF LUCIFER

Anonymous said...

Yea, wo be unto you because of that great abomination which has come among you; and ye have united yourselves unto it, yea, to that SECRET BAND which was established by Gadianton! FREEMASONS- REPENT-Masonry is DARKNESS
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in DARKNESS, we lie, and do not the truth:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
QUIT DECEIVING YOURSELF IN MASONIC MORMONISM AND LUCIFERS initiation-
LUCIFER IS THE FALSE LIGHT OF DARKNESS
www.mastermason.com/hiramdiscovered/
John 1: 5 And the light (JESUS) shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
And now, seeing ye know these things and cannot deny them except ye shall lie, therefore in this ye have sinned, for ye have rejected all these things, notwithstanding so many evidences which ye have received; yea, even ye have received all things, both things in heaven, and all things which are in the earth, as a witness that they are true. REPENT of YOUR SECRET BAND OF DARKNESS OF THE OATHS AND COVENANTS OF LUCIFER SWEARING BY THEIR NECKS AND HEADS IN THE NAME OF THE LORD
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins
But I say unto you,Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne:Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.Ether 8:14 And it came to pass that they all sware unto him, by the God of heaven, and also by the heavens, and also by the earth, and by their heads, that whoso should vary from the assistance which Akish desired should lose his head; and whoso should divulge whatsoever thing Akish made known unto them, the same should lose his life.
BUT ABOVE ALL THINS, my brethren,swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up.
For the Lord worketh not in secret combinations, neither doth he will that man should shed blood, but in all things hath forbidden it, from the beginning of man. For, from the days of Cain, there was a secret combination, and their works were in the dark, and they knew every man his brother. And there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of all these things; yea, the founder of murder, and works of darkness; yea, and he leadeth them by the neck with a flaxen cord, until he bindeth them with his strong cords forever.
Except ye repent ye shall be smitten, even unto destruction.Yea, wo be unto you because of that great abomination which has come among you; and ye have united yourselves unto it, yea, to that secret band which was established by Gadianton!

Anonymous said...

It's been nearly a quarter of a century since Freemasons in Utah rescinded a 60-year ban that prohibited Latter-day Saints from joining their fraternity. And while many remember the religious division that had characterized Freemasonry in the Beehive State from pioneer times, Glen Cook believes he is evidence that things are changing among his Masonic brethren. Cook, a Salt Lake criminal defense attorney and Brigham Young University law school graduate, is believed to be the first member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be elected grand master in Utah in nearly a century, overseeing the activities of several lodges around the state and looking to make the group more open to public understanding. Glen Cook, the 137th grand master of Freemasonry in Utah, stands on the stage of the main auditorium at the Masonic Temple in downtown Salt Lake City.New grand master first in a century who is LDS During a recent tour of the Masonic Temple in downtown Salt Lake City following his installation in February, Cook said there are definite misconceptions about Freemasonry in Utah, particularly among Latter-day Saints, "but there's also some reality there as well."
Church founder Joseph Smith and his brother, Hyrum, were members of the Masonic lodge in Nauvoo, Ill., in the early 1840s, and historians have written in detail about the role of fellow Masons in the murder of the two men in June 1844. Smith's successor, President Brigham Young, and the three succeeding presidents of the church all were made Masons in the Nauvoo Lodge, as were many who presided in church hierarchy during and following Joseph Smith's death.

"We say to the priests of the Latter-day Church, you cannot enter our lodge rooms—you surrender all to an unholy priesthood. You have heretofore sacrificed the sacred obligations of our beloved Order, and we believe you would do the same again. Stand aside; we want none of you. Such a wound as you gave Masonry in Nauvoo is not easily healed, and no Latter-day Saint is, or can become a member of our Order in this jurisdiction."
"Grand Master J.M. Orr of Utah" made this ABOVE statement in 1878
www.deseretnews.com/article/695265549/A-Mormon-Mason-New-grand-master-is-the-first-in-a-century-who-is-LDS.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry_and_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement

Anonymous said...

Almost every Mormon topic about the 3rd Heaven, Calling and Election made Sure, Holy Spirit of promise, Rite of Exaltation and Mormons Temple things has its roots and foundation in freemasonry.
Joseph Smith imported Freemasonry into Mormonism add to It, tried to perfect it, and claimed It as his own revelation. Infact Joseph Smith was a Freeemason as many know. and a freeemason before he added Freemasonry to Mormonism.
What most do not know is what Freemasonry is.
To better understand all of Mormonism it is correct that you look at the root and foundation of Freemasonry in Mormonism.
Want to know what Joseph Smith was learning and doing? You should, you base your Salvation on the work of that Man.
Is freemasonry the School of Witches and Luciferians? Yes.
Was Joseph Smith a Freemason?
Did Joseph Smith swear deadly blood Oaths and Covenants to a Luciferian Organization? Yes
Being that Joseph Smith swore death oaths to freemasonry you are under an obligation to know what that Organization is and was.
Is your Salvation effected by Joseph Smith's Oath and Covenants that He swore to a Luciferian Organization?
Are you born or adopted into curses and obligations due to the fact that Joseph Smith broke the Oaths and Covenants that he broke into Freemasonry?
To better understand all of those Freemasonry things that are are pretending to be "new" or another "gospel" look at Freemasonry where it came from.
Really what would it mean if Mormonism is false and all of that Swearing of oaths and covenants- penalties - If Mormonism is false and all of that swearing is wrong, Mormonism by the Nature of the Oaths MAKES IT THE WORKMANSHIP OF LUCIFER
James 5:12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath:
Matt 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
Why not Listen to Jesus Christ or James -
Do not swear Oaths
In Mormon and Masonic Temples there are many bloody Oaths that are against the Words of Jesus Christ- In dregrees some of the Penalties have been softened but in Both you receive the 3rd Degree .
Freemsonry is the Religion of Temples and Lodges of Lucifer - Masonry is not a Church and has none.
Mason do have set prayers but do not mention Jesus Christ in Prayer.
Joseph Smith Joined Lucifer's Temple religion and added it to His Own Thru Oaths.
Look at Freemasonry where it came from, what it is , and where freemasonry will take you.
EVIL CREATES NOTHING, EVIL TWIST AND DISTORTS TRUTH

Anonymous said...

Mormons cannot ever understand what they are doing in the Mormon Temple until they know what is is to BE a freemason. Joseph Smith was a freemason and was always in the company of Freemasons ALL of his Life and in Death.

The Penalties, OATHS and COVENANTS and Ordinanaces,The RITE Of EXALTATION( Calling and Election made Sure) comes from the freemasons. There is NO evidence that even suggest or connects with what the Masons/Mormons do to Solomon's Temple.
www.bilderberg.org/Royal_Arch.htm

Lofty talking and speaking High words does not Make Templism Holy. "Having been kept for a considerable time in a state of darkness what, in your present condition, is the predominant wish of your heart? LIGHT!!"
"That Most Excellent we must humbly beg to decline; for we have heard with our ears and our fathers have declared unto us that in their day, and the old time before, it was not lawful for anyone to pronounce the Sacred and Mysterious Name of the True and Living God Most High save the High Priest, nor him but once a year when he entered the Holy of Holies and stood before the Ark of the Covenant to make propitiation for the sins of the people."
"My colleagues in office concur with me in opinion that, as a reward for your zeal and fidelity in having discovered the long lost secrets of the Royal Arch you should at once be called to that exalted rank so long held by your illustrious ancestors."
" We congratulate you on being exalted into Royal Arch Masonry, at once the foundation and keystone of the whole Masonic structure. You may perhaps imagine that you have this day taken a fourth Degree in Freemasonry, such, however, is not the case. It is the Master Mason's completed, for when you were raised to the Third Degree you were informed that by the untimely death of our Master Hiram Abiff the secrets of a Master Mason were lost, and that certain substituted secrets were adopted to distinguish all Master Masons until time or circumstances should restore the genuine."
Mormons think Joseph Smith fulfilled Masonry.
"The stroke of the Pick reminds us of the sound of the last trumpet, when the ground shall be shaken, loosened, and the graves deliver and give up their dead; the Crowbar being an emblem of uprightness, points to the erect manner in which the body shall arise on that awful day to meet its tremendous though merciful Judge; while the manner in which the body is laid in the grave is fully depicted by the work of the Shovel and we, with humble but holy confidence, hope that when these earthly remains have been properly disposed of, the spirit will arise to immortal life and everlasting bliss."
Pretty words and nice thoughts does not Make Mormon/Masons True.
www.bilderberg.org/Royal_Arch.htm

Anonymous said...

www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/manasseh.html

please do not Think that Jews and Mormons are the only ones Doing Jewish Witchcraft!!!

And if you have Eyes to see, and Ears to hear follow the link at the top and you will find all of your Mormon Mysticism

"Many believe the Sublime Degree of Master Mason to be the ultimate degree of Freemasonry and all others to be added and explanatory. Most students of Freemasonry agree that the story of the Craft as presented in the three degrees is incomplete and that the degrees of the Royal Arch complete the story and answer many of the questions in the mind of the newly made Master Mason."
"Pure Ancient Freemasonry consists of but three degrees, viz., that of Entered Apprentice, Fellowcraft, and Master Mason. including the Supreme Order of the Holy Royal Arch."
www.fidelitylodge.com/FidelityChapter/aboutRAM.php
Many historians have traced the earliest origins of the Royal Arch Degree to Ireland, late in the 17th century and in England in 1738. In 1752, ambulatory or military warrants for lodges were introduced. This was instrumental in placing the Royal Arch Degree on a par with the Master Mason Degree."

Watch the video on this Page and know what the masons say about themselves
www.fidelitylodge.com/FidelityChapter/index.php
Mormonism is a York Rite Branch of Masonry
Templism - Vaults and Golden Books

Most Masons trace their founding to the first “Mother” Lodge that met in a tavern in London on the feast of St John, 24th June 1717. This is a day held most sacred by the Knights Templar.
"Every leading and influential witch, occultist and Satanist has invariably been a high-ranking Mason."

Some say "And, you start from the premise that Masonry is evil, and that premise clouds you vision, and corrupts all your logic."

others say"According to the New Catholic Encyclopedia (Imprimatur: +Patrick A O’Boyle, Archbishop of Washington, 5th August 1966): “Membership in, associating with, or contributing to any aspect of Freemasonry under any title, including Mason, Freemason, Illuminati, Shriner, Order of the Eastern Star, Order of DeMolay, and many others, even if believed for a worthy cause (children’s hospital) or under the guise of entertainment (circus), should be understood as a grave offence against God. No organisation that is a separation from Freemasonry or a mimic thereof should be seen as anything but humanistic and self-serving. While any theist should be strongly opposed to any taint of Freemasonry, for Catholics it constitutes automatic excommunication once they have knowledge that the teachings of the Church proscribe any association or activity related to them.”

Anonymous said...

Baptist leaders have referred to Freemasonry as “an ungodly brotherhood of satanic darkness”; “there is an inherent incompatibility between Masonry and the Christian faith”; “there is a great danger that the Christian Mason may find himself compromising his allegiance to Jesus.” (The Baptist Union of Scotland, 1965).
Lutherans say “Masonry amounts to idolatry.” (Missouri Synod, 1959).
Presbyterians: “Masonry is a religious institution and as such is definitely anti-Christian.” (General Assembly, Rochester, 1942).
Methodists: “There is a great danger that the Christian who becomes a Freemason will find himself compromising his Christian beliefs. Methodists should not become Masons.” (General Assembly, London, 1985).
The Church of England: “A number of very fundamental reasons to question the compatibility of Freemasonry with Christianity.” (General Synod, London, 1987 ~ where several members of the committee were Masons!)
Russian Orthodox Church: “Any Orthodox who joins Masonry loses all the right and privileges of his membership in the Church.” (Strange Altars, Acker, page 60).
Roman Catholic Archbishop Emanuel Milingo: “We are now in the last days of Satan’s reign and he is working overtime through his agents to complete the takeover of the world. His agents are nothing less than the Freemasons who have permeated to the very heart of Christ’s Church. It is the task of Freemasons to lull Christians, especially priests, into believing that the Devil and his demons do not exist. Satan plays with priests like toys when they do not believe in him. After the last war bring young Freemasons were placed in seminaries around the world. These agents of Satan were waiting for their time to come. … The Freemason antichrists became priests for this purpose. They aim to take religious power throughout the world, just as they have taken economic and political power.” (Powers of Darkness, Powers of Light, Cornwell, 1991).
Mormons Say their Prophet, Seer, and Revelator was a mason and that is GOOD
www.holygrail-church.fsnet.co.uk/Freemasonry.htm

"But the religion of Masonry is not sectarian. It admits men of every creed within its hospitable bosom, rejecting institutions; and on this ground mainly, if not alone, should the religious Mason defend it." (Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, Albert G. Mackey, Revised Edition, 1921, pages 618, 619)
"It [Masonry] is the universal, eternal, immutable religion, such as God planted it in the heart of universal humanity. No creed has ever been long-lived that was not built on this foundation. It is the base and they are the superstructure." (page 219)
"Every Masonic Temple is a Temple of Religion, and its teachings are instructions in religion." (page 213)
www.biblebelievers.org.au/mason1.htm

Anonymous said...

THE FAMILIAR SPIRIT OF MORMONISM
www.mastermason.com/hiramdiscovered
/gnostic.html
If you will Go to
www.mastermason.com/hiramdiscovered
/gnostic.html
You could think it is Mormonism - It is

Smith Smith Smith Joseph Fielding Smith, was quoted as saving, "Leave the mysteries alone," and preached that, "The promise has been made to all those who will receive the light of the truth and through their research and obedience endeavor to acquaint themselves with the gospel, that they shall receive line upon line, precept by precept, here a little and there a little, until the fullness of truth shall be their portion; even the hidden Mysteries of the kingdom shall be made known unto them; 'For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened."
www.mastermason.com/hiramdiscovered
/ForwardHiram.html


The Egyptian Degrees

For those of you that think the Knights Templar began freemasonry and a process the Mason's call 'Initiation', we did this page.
www.mastermason.com/hiramdiscovered
/Theinitiate.html

Go here and you will think you Died and went to Mormon heaven - Enough Luciferianism to entertain you for all of Eternity
http://hub.webring.org/hub/esotericmasonryr

THE FAMILIAR SPIRIT OF MORMONISM
Mormons are Gnostic
Helaman 6:25
25 Now behold, it is these secret Oaths and Covenants which Alma commanded his son should not go forth unto the world, lest they should be a means of bringing down the people unto destruction.
26 Now behold, those secret Oaths and Covenants did not come forth unto Gadianton from the records which were delivered unto Helaman; but behold, they were put into the heart of Gadianton by that same being who did entice our first parents to partake of the forbidden fruit—Helaman 6:30
30 And behold, it is he who is the author of all sin. And behold, he doth carry on his works of darkness and secret murder, and doth hand down their plots, and their Oaths, and their Covenants, and their plans of awful wickedness, from generation to generation according as he can get hold upon the hearts of the children of men.
Alma 37:27
27 And now, my son, I command you that ye retain all their Oaths, and their Covenants, and their agreements in their secret abominations; yea, and all their signs and their wonders ye shall keep from this people, that they know them not, lest peradventure they should fall into darkness also and be destroyed.

Mormons Deny the Book of Mormon and it's teaching the book of Mormon was "written" for Mormons in this time and Day!!!!

Except ye repent ye shall be smitten, even unto destruction.Yea, wo be unto you because of that great abomination which has come among you; and ye have united yourselves unto it, yea, to that secret band which was established by Gadianton!

Joseph Smith Jr was a Freemason and so was his Dad, Brothers, and all the Prophets of the 1800s
Freemasonry is The Religion of Lucifer -
Maybe Joseph Smith did not "join" any church But he took the Oath and Covenant of Lucifer's Temple
Including swear by his head in the name of the Lord.

Anonymous said...

Is Gnosticism the "real" Gospel ?
Is Mormonism the real Gospel?
Is there a Difference between Mormonism and Gnosticism?

Mormons are Gnostic and included much of Freemasonry into Mormonism - Prior to the Freemasonry, Mormonism was more Christian than Gnostic.

http://usminc.org/gnostic.html

Are all you Mormons okay with that Gnostic thing?

By the way how many of you have pet snakes?

Anonymous said...

This is a portion of the speech that President John F. Kennedy gave at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel on April 27, 1961. "The President and the Press" before the American Newspaper Publishers Association.

The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.

For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/censorship
/a-portion-of-kennedys-speech-before-theamerican-newspaper-publishers-association.html

David Littlefield said...

That's interesting, but you are a long way from connecting Masonry to that conspiracy. If you want to find out about the conspiracy that Pres. Kennedy was referring to you might consider reading "Tragedy and Hope" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Quigley).

- David

Anonymous said...

A long way from connecting Masonry to that conspiracy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFfdOkwyuL0&feature=related

Since then I have learned a bit more about Freemasonry and have had many communications, good and bad, with its members. I've been put on an "anti-mason" [hit]list, along with others who dare to write anything unflattering against the brethren; I've had heated debates and arguments in public forums and message boards; and I've actually been threatened, both subtly and overtly. Curiously, many times the offended Mason claims to be a chaplain, a minister or a supposed "man of cloth" - a real surprise, at first, considering the occult nature of the organization.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Freemasonry.htm

To come then at once to the point, Masonry (as I shall show from the customs, ceremonies, hieroglyphics, and chronology of Masonry) is derived and is the remains of the religion of the ancient Druids; who, like the Magi of Persia and the Priests of Heliopolis in Egypt, were Priests of the Sun. They paid worship to this great luminary, as the great visible agent of a great invisible first cause whom they styled " Time without limits." [NOTE: Zarvan-Akarana. This personification of Boundless Time, though a part of Parsee Theology, seems to be a later monotheistic dogma, based on perversions of the Zendavesta. See Haug's "Religion of the Parsees." -- Editor.]

The christian religion and Masonry have one and the same common origin: both are derived from the worship of the Sun. The difference between their origin is, that the christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun, as I have shown in the chapter on the origin of the Christian religion. [NOTE: Referring to an unpublished portion of the work of which this chapter forms a part. -- American Editor, 1819 [This paragraph is omitted from the pamphlet copyrighted by Madame Bonneville in 1810, as also is the last sentence of the next paragraph. -- Editor.]

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/thomas_paine/origin_free-masonry.html

Anonymous said...

At least a great portion of Christmass Dec 25th the Birth of the Sun - and Sunrise service On ISHTAR are Sun worship - How was your Christmass and ISHTAR?

"Do not let the truth get in the way of a good story"

Speech by Monseigneur Jouin, December 8, 1930

Papacy and Freemasonry, those are the two powers active throughout the world and each is seeking to dominate it. The solution of the struggle taking place between them is, at the present moment of the utmost importance; for we are face to face not only with the crossroads of history but also with a radical transformation of humanity itself. Either Romam Catholicism will lift us up again to the level of Christian civilization or else Judeo-Masonry will drag us down the path of barbarism and decadent paganism. The whole world oscillates between the two: Christianism and Paganism. On December 8th, 1892, Pope Leo XIII wrote to the Italian Episcopal Hierarchy: "It is necessary to fight Freemasonry with those weapons of divine faith which in past ages vanquished paganism."

Moreover the Papacy and Judeo-Masonry are both so fully conscious of the diametrically opposed parts that they are playing that they assume that from it must issue the political, economic, intellectual and religious future of individuals as well as of nations. It is a fact and the better proof of it is their irreducible antagonism toward each other.

What is, indeed, Judeo-Masonry today if not the concentration and mobilization of all evil forces? This Sect with its threefold claim of being Counter-Church (against the Church), Counter-State (against the State) and Counter-Morality (against traditional morality) takes pride in being above all and for all times the enemy of the Catholic Church; one of its rallying calls is that of Tigrotto, one of the Alta Vendita chiefs who, in 1822, proclaimed: "Catholicism must be destroyed throughout the whole world." With Tigrotto also the anti-Catholic plan is expressed thus: "Let us conspire only against Rome." Is this not expressed in an identical manner in the German "Los Von Rom" or in the English: "No Popery?"

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/modernproblems/freemasonry/pmasnry.htm

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/modernproblems/freemasonry

Anonymous said...

Masons make room for Lucifer as their god as there are lords and gods many for those who do not believe in the ONE GOD.

Masonry teaches how to make oaths and covenants to Lucifer- That is what Masonry teaches and that is what Masons DO.

Lucifer twists the Truth and is the enemy of Christ- Lucifer and His Masonic Churches teach opposite to Jesus Christ

3rd Nephi 12:
20 Therefore come unto me and be ye saved; for verily I say unto you, that except ye shall keep my commandments, which I have commanded you at this time, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

34 But verily, verily, I say unto you, swear not at all; neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne;
35 Nor by the earth, for it is his footstool;
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair black or white;
37 But let your communication be Yea, yea; Nay, nay; for whatsoever cometh of more than these is evil.

Helaman 6:25
25 Now behold, it is these secret Oaths and Covenants which Alma commanded his son should not go forth unto the world, lest they should be a means of bringing down the people unto destruction.
26 Now behold, those secret Oaths and Covenants did not come forth unto Gadianton from the records which were delivered unto Helaman; but behold, they were put into the heart of Gadianton by that same being who did entice our first parents to partake of the forbidden fruit—Helaman 6:30
30 And behold, it is he who is the author of all sin. And behold, he doth carry on his works of darkness and secret murder, and doth hand down their plots, and their Oaths, and their Covenants, and their plans of awful wickedness, from generation to generation according as he can get hold upon the hearts of the children of men.

Alma 37:27
27 And now, my son, I command you that ye retain all their Oaths, and their Covenants, and their agreements in their secret abominations; yea, and all their signs and their wonders ye shall keep from this people, that they know them not, lest peradventure they should fall into darkness also and be destroyed.

James 5:12
12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.

Joseph Smith became a Mason and the brought Masonry into the Church

Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die
wherein he became Master Mahan, master of that great secret which was administered unto Cain by Satan....29 Wherefore, they have foresworn themselves, and, by their oaths, they have brought upon themselves death; and a ahell I have prepared for them, if they repent not
31 Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great secret, that I may murder and get gain. Wherefore Cain was called Master Mahan, and he gloried in his wickedness. ....51 For, from the days of Cain, there was a secret combination, and their works were in the dark, and they knew every man his brother.

wherein he became Master Mahan, master of that great secret which was administered unto Cain by Satan

http://www.solomonspalding.com/docs
/exposit1.htm

Anonymous said...

Although Joseph Smith's early writings are filled with material which condemns secret societies, the presence of the Danite band among the Mormons indicates that by 1838 his attitude toward secret societies had changed. The reader will remember that the Danites were a secret oath-bound society and that the members were to be punished with death if they made public the secrets of the order When the Mormon leaders found themselves in serious trouble with the law because of the Danite band, Joseph Smith went back to the teachings of the Book of Mormon and publicly repudiated secret societies. In a letter written from Liberty Jail, dated March 25, 1839, Joseph Smith joined with four others in stating: "We further, caution our brethren, against the impropriety of the organization of bands of companies, by covenant, oaths, penalties, or secresies, but let the time past of our experience and sufferings by the wickedness of Docter Avard suffice, and let our covenants, be that of the everlasting covenant, as it is contained in the holy writ, and the things which God has revealed unto us; pure friendship, always becomes weakened, the very moment you undertake to make it stronger by penal oaths and secrecy." (Times and Seasons, Vol. 1, page 133)After Joseph Smith went to Nauvoo, he again took an interest in secret societies. In fact, it was in Nauvoo that Joseph Smith became a Mason, formed the Council of 50, and established the secret Temple ceremony. Many of the converts to the Mormon Church were Masons or had been Masons in the past. The Mormon Apostle John A. Widtsoe stated: Sidney Rigdon was Not a Freemason and was most likely the author and writer of all of those Golden Nuggets against Free Masonry in the Pearl of Great Price??? Joseph Smith the prophet-president; his counselors Sidney Rigdon and William Law
William Law was a member of the First Presidency
Why William and Jane Law Left the LDS Church in 1844 They left because Joseph Smith ordered the death of his enemies
http://mormonthink.com/grant7.htm
http://www.solomonspalding.com/docs
/exposit1.htm#pg1c1b

Anonymous said...

Joseph Smith established a secret organization on March 11, 1844, called the "Council of Fifty." Other designations identifying the group were "Council of the Kingdom," and the "The Living Constitution." This last appellation reveals how they viewed themselves. This theocratic-political Kingdom or body of men met a number of times in Nauvoo and later in Utah until the 1880's. Joseph Smith was anointed their first King in 1844, Brigham Young in 1847, and John Taylor in 1885.29 The goal of this theocracy was world government. They believed they would govern and rule the earth during the Millennial reign of Christ.30..Smith's responsibilities as a god.....Ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph. If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.38No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith .... [He also] rule[s] in the spirit-world; and he rules their triumphantly .... He reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven.
Being a Mason and a Member of a Secret Society brought a curse on the church and the Death to Joseph Smith - What was Joseph Smith's Last Words?
A masonic distress call do you Know it?
http://en.fairmormon.org/Joseph_Smith/Martyrdom/Masonic_cry_of_distress
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/handshakes.htm
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/gllink.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_Freemasonry

Anonymous said...

In the Devil's own words

http://www.mastermason.com/hiramdiscovered
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And do not let the Giants get you

http://www.mastermason.com/hiramdiscovered/IndexHiram5.html

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Anonymous said...

Masons Mormons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCu0d-SjrN0