Thursday, September 27, 2007

4 Worlds

Building upon my last post, we see the idea of four worlds or glories being well established in Jewish thought, and in LDS theology,

In the language of the Cabbalist we have:

Atziluth
Briah
Yetzirah
Assish

In the language of Mormons we have:

Celestial
Terrestrial
Telestial
Outer Darkness.

So, I ask can these worlds or glories be reconciled into one understanding? Does Atziluth correspond to the Celestial kingdom?

By understanding this correspondence we can better understand the great body of Jewish thought on kingdoms of glory and the ascent of man.

6 comments:

David Littlefield said...

Over at the BackYardProfessor.com they had an interesting and related discussion, I thought I would link to here:LINK.

-David

Tsuzuki said...

I'd say mortal life is a way better fit for Asiyah than outer darkness.

David Littlefield said...

Tsuzuki:

You may be right. What would you think about a description of Asiyah (Assish) as being a non-redeemed mortal life? Such a life may lead to outer darkness, but is not itself outer darkness.

Perhaps a better working description would be; “outside of redemption.”

-David

Tsuzuki said...

Asiyah is pretty straightforward as being the material (and immediate spiritual) world. With this in mind, I would attribute the kingdoms in Mormonism with the associated Kabbalistic world and the ones below it. This is how those in the higher kingdoms can visit those in the lower ones, and how an exalted being can have a body of flesh and bone.

For outer darkness, I might attribute it to Daat, in the sense that it represents the abyss, though this opens up its own can of implications. In order to reach exaltation, do we each have to cross outer darkness without falling in?

David Littlefield said...

Tsuzuki:

What do you mean " immediate spiritual?"

Thanks,

David

Tsuzuki said...

The part of the spiritual that directly interfaces with the physical. You can think of it as the wave function of matter. Probability distributions. That sort of thing. That's my own understanding, anyway.