The Olive Tree represents the Tree of Life. Exactly when that imagery began, I don’t know, but it was a very long time ago. There was an Old Testament prophet only mentioned in the Book of Mormon named “Zenos” (Holy Enos?). This is the earliest use of the olive tree imagery, and interestingly it is also called a vineyard (Jesus is the True Vine), and appears to be the root (or source) of both uses of the imagery in both Book of Mormon and biblical records. This imagery is used in Old Testament, and New Testament times. And in-fact is a major theme throughout scripture.
The olive tree represents the salvation of families, tribes, and individuals (macro and micro).
Olive oil represents the anointing of the Christ or The Anointed One, by it we are healed. It represents the Holy Ghost.
In The Gospel of Phillip we read:
“…it is from the olive tree that we get the chrism [anointing oil], and from the chrism, the resurrection [total healing]… for it is from the word ‘chrism’ that we have been called ‘Christians… For the father anointed the son, and the son anointed the apostles, and the apostles anointed us. He who has been anointed possesses everything. He possesses the resurrection, the light, the cross, the holy spirit. The father gave him this in the bridal chamber… This is {the} kingdom of heaven” [1]
When we call for the Elders of the church to anoint us, it is a re-application of each blessing up to, and including, the Bridle Chamber.
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[1 - The Gospel of Phillip, The Nag Hammadi Library, Harper Collins, Pg. 153-4.]
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Very interesting. But I can see no connection to the point of my post.
-David
This May be a little of topic but Very much to the Point in How Mormons and Christians View The Two Trees and the Power Behind the events that took Place in the Garden.
http://www.angelfire.com/ms/seanie/
mormon/originalsin2.html
1Objection #1:"The Fall was not a sin because God planned it”
Objection #2: " It was not a sin ; it was a transgression”
Objection #3: "It was not a sin because it was not a command”
http://www.mastermason.com/hiramdiscovered/forbiddenf~1.html
I think if one addresses the issues of the above two links that the Mormon View on the Fall came out of the Masonic Camp and not the Christian Camp.
and maybe some will say that it is Good and some Bad.
Link as Above
http://www.mastermason.com/hiramdiscovered
/forbiddenf~1.html
I Did not mean to double post.
I found an interesting Article on the Mormon View of the "FALL" and you must admit that the Mormon View is More Gnostic than Christian , But you might like that
http://www.angelfire.com/ms/seanie/
mormon/originalsin2.html
1Objection #1:"The Fall was not a sin because God planned it”
Objection #2: " It was not a sin ; it was a transgression”
Objection #3: "It was not a sin because it was not a command”
Are Mormons Christian ? NO Not in The Traditional Sense. is that Good or Bad? Mormons love to Boast that they Know and Understand The LORDS MANY AND GODS MANY- GOD and HIS FATHER Rev 1:6 was quoted out of context By Joseph Smith-
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
1 John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
Yes there really is Gnosticism in Mormonism
No Mormon has tried to Defend the Gnostic Notion
of how Mormons view the Fall-Gnosticism Has a Twisted Luciferian View of The "EL-O-HIM as being a Plurality of "gods" in the Garden Story- Mormons are confused and Mystified by the Gnostic Luciferian View of the "gods" and the TRUE nature of the TRUE GOD-For the Gnostics the Fall is a Step Up ward- On ward and Forward -For Mormons the Fall is a Step Up ward- On ward and Forward -
There were Two Trees one Bitter and one Sweet-
GOD told Adam that they could eat of all of the trees Except ONE- The Tree commanded and forbidden by GOD Not to Eat or Partake- GODs Command-
Because The Gnosticism is Hidden and a Mystery is Mormonism - Mormons Do not quite understand
why Mormons think/feel that disobeying GOD and Obeying Lucifer was Right-In the Luciferian/Gnostic view following the commands of the El-ohim- "god' Lucifer would bring Light and Many blessings-
The Gnostics Believe That a "Jehovah" "god'' wanted
Man to Stay Ignorant and Blind- So Lucifer in His quest to free Man and to Allow him to be Enlightened
with the result to be a "god" Gave the Forbidden Fruit to Adam and Eve- Mormons say that Great Blessings came as a result of Disobeying One God and following/obeying the"other" "god"
The Gnostics and Mormons Like the Fall up and Thank Their "god" for the Fall- and the Great Blessing-It was Not a Sin -It was a great thing and a Blessing for all Man Kind - A blessing from Their "god"Well of course it was not a Sin - Obeying your "god" is not a Sin - to obey your "god" commands does bring the blessings- The problem is you picked the wrong "god" to Obey-Your "god" is Lucifer= Light Bringer of False Light
My GOD gave the NO command of the Forbidden Fruit.- My God said it was Sin and against GODs WORD and Command- Your "god" said it was enlightening and a Blessing-My GOD Cursed Adam and Eve for disobeying the Commands of GOD
Also Christians Look to The TREE OF LIFE as the Blessing and In keeping with GODS Command- The TREE of LIFE is OUR BLESSING
Mormons receive blessing by following Lucifer-
And No Mormons DO NOT Know the ONLY TRUE GOD
Are Mormons Gnostics, do they believe in special knowledege of God, which evades others? Are they montanistic, do they believe modern day profits have authority over or devalue historic profits?
As Adonai ha Aretz, Jesus invited Peter to come unto Him on the waters of Galilee (Matthew 14:22-33), but to what degree was He inviting Peter to ascend to/understand from Malchut? What would Peter have received if he hadn’t descended because lack of faith? Is “what God has already revealed” more important than “what He has yet to reveal,” especially in light of the fact that no one has received a fullness of His bestowal in the flesh except Jesus? Within the process of coming to know God and becoming one with Him through the Grace of the Atonement and the power of the Holy Ghost (John 17), how does past understanding stand compared to present and future understanding? Jesus taught, “Don't think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete” (Matthew 5:17, CJB). Our past understanding is beneficial only as we allow future manifestations of God to engulf and magnify it. Otherwise we are taking a little truth and creating God and His Gospel in our own image. He has invited us to grow into an understanding of Him that cannot be pre-conceived (1 John 3:1-3). How can a man treasure a drawn cup of water as though he completely comprehends the living flowing river from which it came? Only God can manifest God. Is His fullness capable of being transmitted between humans? Should the lack of human capability to transmit the fullness of the glory of God prevent us from trying to encourage each other once we have begun receiving from God through Christ? “Don't think. Feel. It is like a finger pointing a way to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory” (Bruce Lee, Enter the Dragon).
Shalom
Yosef
It is all very interesting to say "sayings" but lies do not walk on water because lies are NOT TRUTH. Mormons Must deal with the TRUTH and Their Gnostic roots and know who is their "god".
If your "god" is Lucifer and that is the "god" of the Freemasons - Then when you do Your OATHS and COVENANTS you make those oaths to Lucifer in the manner and Fashion of the Freemasons-
Ether 8: 9 - 14
Hath he not read the record which our fathers brought across the great deep? Behold, is there not an account concerning them of old, that they by their secret plans did obtain kingdoms and great glory?
14And it came to pass that they all sware unto him, by the God of heaven, and also by the heavens, and also by the earth, and by their heads, that whoso should vary from the assistance which Akish desired should lose his head; and whoso should divulge whatsoever thing Akish made known unto them, the same should lose his life15And it came to pass that thus they did agree with Akish. And Akish did administer unto them the oaths which were given by them of old who also sought power, which had been handed down even from Cain, who was a murderer from the beginning. 16And they were kept up by the power of the devil to administer these oaths unto the people, to keep them in darkness, to help such as sought power to gain power, and to murder, and to plunder, and to lie, and to commit all manner of wickedness and whoredoms.22And it came to pass that they did have their signs, yea, their secret signs, and their secret words; and this that they might distinguish a brother who had entered into the covenant, that whatsoever wickedness his brother should do he should not be injured by his brother, nor by those who did belong to his band, who had taken this covenant.
Jesus to the World-I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: 35Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh bof evil.
And James:
9Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:0For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
21Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
22But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
9Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble
12But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
Repent Repent !! You are Of LUCIFER and the Gnostic "god" of Freemasonry - You have the Oaths and Covenants of Lucifer in a Manner Forbidden By GOD
“A monk asked Hsuan-sha, ‘When the old masters preached Dharma wordlessly with a gavel or a mosquito brush, were they expressing the ultimate truth of Zen?’ Hsuan-sha answered, ‘No,’ ‘Then,’ continued the monk, ‘what were they showing?’ Hsuan-sha raised his mosquito brush. The monk asked, ‘What is the ultimate truth of Zen?’ ‘Wait until you attain realization,’ Hsuan-sha replied.
“NYOGEN: The monk was, like many another person, clinging to his own prejudice as the only possible solution. Hsuan-sha sought to alter this idea when he said, ‘No.’ The monk could not free himself from a concrete idea, even with the vivid instruction before him. When he asked about the ultimate truth of Zen, he was like a man standing in front of a city hall and asking where the city is. Hsuan-sha gave up and said, ‘Wait until you attain realization.’
GENRO: If I were Hsuan-sha, I would throw down the brush instead of making such a likewarm speech.
FUGAI: My teacher’s words may be good to help Hsuan-sha, but it is a pity he had to use a butcher’s knife to carve a chicken” (Nyogen Senzaki, The Iron Flute, pp. 52-53).
“What did your face look like before your parents were born” (Zen Koan)?
It is best to ask God to help you go back to the beginning, so as to help you come to know who you were and help you continue in the path that you began before you were born (Romans 8:29-30, Ephesians 1:4-5, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, 2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2, 1 Peter 1:2, 20,). God bless brother.
Shalom
Yosef
The TRUE GOD is not a Liar hiding in the Secret chambers in the Desert- The TRUE not is not Subject to Freemasonry, The TRUE GOD is NOT a duelist creature of Gnosticism.
Ephesians 4:24
And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
John 3:33He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
2 Chronicles 15:3
Now for a long season Israel hath been without the true God, and without a teaching priest, and without law
Please quit your Jewish magick and sayings from those Who rejected Emmanuel--his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.40But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham......Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.2Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot ahear my word.
But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh bof evil.
Talking like Serpent with a forked Tongue and Saying godly things in the name of the Serpent does not mean you speak of the True God or Speak in His NAME-
If your Swear by Your Neck and Head in the NAME of GOD- You have become Like NIMROD a MIGHTY one AGAINST THE LORD
Moses 5:29 29And Satan said unto Cain: Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God
Ether 8:
14And it came to pass that they all sware unto him, by the God of heaven..
REPENT REPENT
Jesus to the World-I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: 35Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
Which Master DO YOU OBEY?
Lucifer or JESUS in word AND in DEED -REPENT and Answer to JESUS
3rd Nephi 12 :20 Therefore come unto me and be ye saved; for verily I say unto you, that except ye shall keep my commandments, which I have commanded you at this time, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
34But verily, verily, I say unto you, swear not at all; neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35Nor by the earth, for it is his footstool; 36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair black or white; 37But let your communication be Yea, yea; Nay, nay; for whatsoever cometh of more than these is evil.
2 Nephi 26:22
And there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of all these things; yea, the founder of murder, and works of darkness; yea, and he leadeth them by the neck with a flaxen cord, until he bindeth them with his strong cords forever.
Cain Satan Lucifer and the Gnostic Clan of Lies
25And it shall be said in time to come—That these abominations were had from Cain; for he rejected the greater counsel which was had from God
24For from this time forth thou shalt be the father of his lies; thou shalt be called Perdition; for thou wast also before the world.
29And Satan said unto Cain: Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die....Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Gnostic Mormon Masonry and The Oaths and Covenants of Lucifer - The swearing Penalties and In the Name of the LORD GOD is the doings of Lucifer and of an un-Holy Priesthood - You say "Jesus" but you do not , but are against the LORD GOD in word and Deed.
12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
Invoking WORD of the LORD GOD in Swearing People By their HEAD HEAVEN GOD MEN and ANGLES is
NOT NOT NOT the Work of the LORD- It is Against the WORD of the LORD - putting" Holiness to the LORD" on the outside of a Masonic Temple does NOT make your works of Darkness LIGHT or RIGHT.
3rd Nephi 12: 34 But verily, verily, I say unto you, swear not at all; neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35Nor by the earth, for it is his footstool; 36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair black or white; 37But let your communication be Yea, yea; Nay, nay; for whatsoever cometh of more than these is evil.
Open challenge to explain away the Words of Jesus Christ and James in condemning Freemasonic Fashion and Manner Type of Oaths and Covenants.
Did I miss quote or was anything Used or quoted out of Context? - and please do not answer me with a Jewish Qaballah Riddle!!
Did all of the Scriptures match up? Was something Missed or lost in translation? Was there a Trick?
All of what I quoted was from The Scriptures and mostly from the Book of Mormon-
Jesus Christ is the Truth and you can not explain away the TRUTH- or HIS WORD- You must account and Stand before the Judgement bar of GOD -
Repent Repent -
3rd Nephi 12: 34 But verily, verily, I say unto you, swear not at all; neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35Nor by the earth, for it is his footstool; 36Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair black or white; 37But let your communication be Yea, yea; Nay, nay; for whatsoever cometh of more than these is evil.
Put it all into Content and Context - Did I lie to you or Try to use false scriptures against you?
Do not Hide from JESUS the WORD of TRUTH - I only told and shared with you your Freedom to Escape Lucifer and Freemasonry -
I challenge you to ANSWER and OBEY the ONLY TRUE and LIVING GOD
12 But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.
Are you UNDER CONDEMNATION?
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