Friday, November 9, 2007

The Great Pyramid - Cheops

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Here are a few points about Abraham and Cheops, you decide.

1.) Abraham went into Egypt after he received his ascension ritual.

2.) At the time of Abraham, the Pharaoh was a descendent of Ham, and not then eligible to hold the priesthood. [1]

3.) The Hyksos (Shepard kings) ruled Egypt part of the time, and were kin of Abraham (if not Abraham himself and/or his descendents). As such they were candidates to hold the priesthood. [2]

4.) To at least a great degree, the Egyptians had knowledge of the ascension ritual at some point and passed it along, in degrees of corruption. To the degree of the corruption that was passed-on, I will leave to the reader to decide.

The Great Pyramid (of Pharaoh Cheops) was built sometime around the period that Abraham was in Egypt. The pyramid was permanently closed with a plug, and there was never a body interred there.[3] The pyramid included all the necessary symbolism for use in ascension rituals. It had three basic levels. At the bottom, which was subterranean (representing the telestial kingdom), is found a pit that could have been used to store water for washings. The next level up is called the Queen’s Chamber, representing the terrestrial kingdom. It was higher in the structure and larger. You then ascend to the King’s Chamber (representing the celestial kingdom). It is larger and grander. There are two basic sections. The first could be used for teaching and initiation, then, as you go through a section meant to divide the two rooms, the final room is entered. There was a box (or ark) in the room. It does not take much to assume this ark contained the law, and that the initiates would kneel at this ark or alter.

[ 1 - Abraham 1:27]

[2 - See Joseph of Egypt, Elder Mark E. Peterson, Deseret Book, The Land of the Nile. See Improvement Era, 1923, Elder J.M. Sjodahl, Tut-Ankh-Amen and Sun-Worship.]

[3 - “Two air vents (M, N) passing through the entire body of the Pyramid ventilate the King's Chamber. In itself this is sufficient to establish that the building was not intended for a tomb.” Manley P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages.]


Reed said...

David, Do you think this also plays into Bauval's Orion theory of the 3 main pyramids mirroring the belt stars? Which would further lead to a
possible Sirius/Kolob connection?

David Littlefield said...


I really don’t know much about Bauval's theory, just a passing acquaintance, but I will read up on it.

However, I do see a distinction between The Great Pyramid and other pyramids. I believe the Great Pyramid either is a temple, or emulate true temples.

The other, smaller pyramids are in fact burial places, built in pyramid style demonstrating the idea of ascension, in imitation of the great pyramid/temple.


Michael Towns said...

I appreciate this blog posting, but the chronology seems unsubstantiated. Can you offer some indications that would explain why you put Abraham during the building of the Great Pyramid?

Dating Abraham has always been notoriously difficult, if not impossible. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

"In that that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the Lord, and it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of Hosts". ISAIAH 19, 19-20.
If may seem that hidding under every unturned stone and Brick there is Masonry in the Crevices,
Little Man Napoleon and the French were in Egypt
From 1809-1828, they published a 19-volume work called Description of Egypt. Their observations, drawings and illustrations were circulated throughout Europe and created a tremendous interest in antiquities of Egypt.
". Nevertheless, there existed a constant contact between Europe and Egypt such that hieroglyphics were consistently known by the European elite. The reason for this is that medical practices of the Middle Ages resulted in the prescription of bitumen, ground up mummies as a cure for various kinds of diseases. Thus, there was a trade in whole mummies which resulted in examples of hieroglyphics coming into Europe throughout the Dark Ages. and crossing the Path of Joseph Smith were Things Egyptian Mummies and Burial Clothes and other attachments including the Journies of the Dead and Things Egyptian.
Fig. 3. Signifies Abraham in Egypt as given also in Figure 10 of Facsimile No. 1.
Here is an excellent Link in Defense of Joseph Smith v/s those of Rosetta Stone
64(re;BOM)Even the Book of Mormon
RE-formed Egyptian" translate this reformed Egyptian into the English language" “I went to the city of New York, and presented the characters which had been translated, with the translation thereof, to Professor Charles Anthon, a gentleman celebrated for his literary attainments. Professor Anthon stated that the translation was correct, more so than any he had before seen translated from the Egyptian. I then showed him those which were not yet translated, and he said that they were Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic; and he said they were true characters.
300 B.C. Latin was used and occasionally Greek. Within a hundred years the Egyptian hieroglyphics were no longer used or understood by anyone and even the Roman authors of the time suggested that hieroglyphics was not even a language. In the truest sense this is now a dead language.
there were some early attempts at translation of hieroglyphics. In 1633, a Jesuit priest named "Anthanasius Kircher"("The "Kircher Tree": Athanasius Kircher's 1652 depiction of the Tree of Life), whose specialities were the humanities,
The Masons also got into Things Egyptian and there was all out open fever and fevor by all Groups many Religions Claimed that the Great Pyramid was a Temple and had Numberology in concert with the Calander in "sacred inches" and that infact the Pyramid was the Word of God.
also Link
Such Being Master Mason Charles Taze Russle.
"The testimony of God’s stone Witness and prophet, the great pyramid in Egypt."
"the Great Pyramid also pointed to that year as the end of this world. It was claimed that 1914 and other important Biblical dates could be calculated by measuring the lengths of various passages and chambers in the pyramid".
His books displayed a winged disk the very same picture appears in Rosicrucian pamphlets and in Egyptian heiroglyphs. Manley P. Hall a Mason also had this winged disk in the Secret Teachings of all Ages. Not only is this disk used in Rosicrucianism but by Kabbalists who portray Jehovah with it.
"In the passages of the great pyramid of Gizeh the agreement of one or two measurements with present truth chronology might be accidental, but the correspondency of dozens of measurements proves the same God designed both pyramid and plan…" (WatchTower 6/15/1922 p.187)
The Watchtower lashed out at those who had fallen for the teaching of the Great Pyramid.
"It is more reasonable to conclude that the great pyramid of gizeh, as well as the other pyramids…were built…under the direction of Satan the devil." (WT, 11/15/1928 p.344).
also Link
Mormonism has never decreed the PYRAMID as a Temple even though Things Egyptian were part of the Culture of that Day.
In Masonic/Mysticism exuberance some have become lost in the fog
Those caught in the mist of darkness; yea, even an exceedingly great mist of darkness, insomuch that they who had commenced in the path did lose their way, that they wandered off and were lost.
The J.W.s tried to make something Holy of the Pyramid but repented.
Some Mormons have tried to make something Holy of the Pyramid and need to repent

David Littlefield said...


You quoted ISAIAH 19, 19-20. While I’m not sure I would connect this to The Great Pyramid or not, if it is connected, it would only cement my points.

I was not arguing for or against anything C. T. Russll said. What he said or thought has no bearing on what I have said. My words stand on their own merit.

ANON SAID: “Some Mormons have tried to make something Holy of the Pyramid and need to repent”

DAVID RESONDS: I am not trying to make The Great Pyramid holy or unholy. Frankly, I suspect you could see truth clearer if you did not run your thought processes through Russle, MP Hall, Masonry, and other such pontificators. They sometimes suffice as secondary sources of infromation, but they fail miserably as a filter for thought.


David Littlefield said...

Michael Town:

Great to see you here! Welcome!

My point of Abraham and The Great Pyramid, and the connection is I know a little tenuous. That’s why I began my post with “you decide.”

My larger points are these:

* The Great Pyramid was a temple (not arguing authorized or apostate).

* Abraham understood temple teachings and went into Egypt.

* At some point the Shemites known as Hyksos ruled Egypt. The Hyksos were not disqualified as priesthood bearers, and a working authorized temple system could have existed in Egypt at some point of their history. Therefore, not everything coming from Egypt (Pyramid, Book of Breathings etc.) should be branded as apostate or an imitation.

The Great Pyramid has all the earmarks of a temple as follow:

- Three Levels. Each ascending level is grander than the one below.

- Water in the bottom level corresponding to the sea of Solomon’s Temple.

- The highest level appears have two chambers.

- The box in the King’s chamber was not meant as a coffin, and I am told, but I have not verified, that it is the exact size of the Ark of The Covenant.

Regarding the timeline of Abraham and the construction the Great Pyramid, there seems to be plenty of disagreement on when both Abraham lived, and when the Great Pyramid was constructed. And there are some (not Wikipedia) sources that have them overlapping. So, whether this point is correct or not, I am not digging in, I just find it interesting.

And a study of the Book of Breathings, like what Nibley has done, shows a great deal of knowledge regarding temple things. We usually chalk that up to an Imitation of priesthood by unauthorized officiators, but I am not sure that is correct.


Michael Towns said...

David, thanks for the additional comments. I think I agree with you that at some point, totally authorized temple rites were being performed in ancient Egypt. Which would make sense, given Abraham and Joseph's extensive connections with the Egyptian royal family and the hierarchy.

If only we could truly narrow down the chronology of Abraham, and tie that into which Pharaoh he had dealings with...

tmg_founder said...

I have to agree with your assessment. In my research concerning the Egyptians, one of the points that Schwaller de Lubicz makes is very similar to this. I think we know that it was likely an apostate construction. Regardless, the symbolism is still there.
Thank you for your work.
gary d. goodwin

David Littlefield said...

Gary D. Goodwin:

Thanks for the great comment! Nice to see you here!

I checked out your group on-line. Very interesting. I will read up on it a little more when I get a little extra time.



tim said...

I think its great to find other LDS willing to try and connect the symbols in Egypt to the gospel. Certainly Joseph Smith opened this door wide open with the amazing scriptures he gave us.
As to the dating of Abraham, et. al., probably the best we can do is to infer when he MAY have lived, based on other things we have more knowledge regarding. Even the most skilled Egyptologists argue constantly over the most basic dates in Egyptian chronology. For example, there is extensive argumentation regarding the dating of the Hyksos expulsion, etc.. From what I can tell, the arguments fall within a window of +- ~150 years depending on your preference. Most scholars do not equate the Hyksos with the Jews, but I personally believe there is enough evidence to do so.
So we have to be willing to use our 'best knowledge' at the time to craft a chronology that includes the additional knowledge Joseph gave us regarding the Egyptians. There is some evidence to support identifying the great Egyptian Imotep with Joseph. I find this fascinating. If you do that, you can then begin to build a chronology that includes Abraham mapped to what archeology tells us. As for the other symbols in the great pyramid, I would love to have more dialog about the possibilities.

Joseph said...

I have been studying the Great Pyramid for quite a few years and am always amazed at how deep the symbolism runs. The quoting of Isaiah 19:19-20 by ‘anonymous’ as proof against legitimacy of the prophecy in the Great Pyramid is striking. It has been found that by adding up the letters that make up the 30 Hebrew words, you get 5449 which is the exact height of the pyramid in pyramid inches (1.009 standard inches).
I don’t believe that the pyramid was ever used as an active temple. I do believe, however, that as the structure is the only example of complimentary squaring of a circle and circling of a square (If the height of the pyramid is taken as the radius of a circle, then the circumference of this circle is the same as the perimeter of the base), and as this can only be accomplished with a pyramid of exactly one angle: the 51 degrees, 51 minutes, and 14.3 seconds found in use in the pyramid of Giza) I find a great store of clues to say that it was an attempt to circumscribe all truth in a single whole.

Tim Stouse gives an excellent short summary of some of these: interestingfacts.htm

I disagree with the attempts to extend the prophecies found in the measurements to the horizontal passages. The truth that is found in the measurements of the descending and ascending passages are incredible, the final measurement of the ascending passage is revealed as 1844. The author I was reading was not LDS and had no idea what significance this year held. Stretching the 'future dates' out of different keys, i.e. the height of the step giving a new measurement value for the kings chamber, is where you step off the deep end.

Tyler Tolman said...

The pyramids were built in 50,509 BC by Tehuty the high priest from Etyl Enty (Atlantis). The only reason they date the Pyramids in 2,500 BC is because they found Grafiti of a high priest who left a cartouche in the place of stores records. When they were cleared out toward the end of the great dynamic times. Many could foresee the coming of wars and the Fall of Egypt as well. Even the Sphinx has been redacted to be at least 13,000 years older than we expected due to Water erosion. Even if they were just built. People don't have that kind of precision in mathematics and building skills overnight. This would take thousands of years of building to perfect his kind of work. Today of which could not be done.

d said...

Real and Physical Evidence of Last Days

In 1798, Napoleon Bonaparte, with his military, took engineers, surveyors, astronomers, and archaeologist with him to learn more about the Mysteries of Ancient Egypt.

His scientist surveyed, measured, explored, and made many detailed drawings of the Great Pyramid of Giza, which stands today.

Isaiah 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days,

Isaiah 19:19 In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD.

The Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt; was the dividing line between Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt, and the great pyramid is in the midst of Egypt.

Isaiah 19:20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the LORD because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.